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Rider grabs rivals front brake at 130 mph!

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Related Discussions' started by Bernhard, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. grandpaul

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  2. acotrel

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    A gentle lean to the right by the other rider would have solved all problems.
     
  3. RoadScholar

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    I doubt that it will take much time for this miscreant to shuffle his deck and play all his victim cards; an all to common practice these days. No one, these days, seems willing to take responsibility for their actions.
     
  4. Fast Eddie

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    I kinda doubt that he saw it coming. Probably had other things on his mind at the time, you know, trivial things like looking where he was going etc...
     
  5. grandpaul

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    It's all "fun", "mind games", and "racing" till YOU are the guy that gets killed/paralyzed...
     
  6. xbacksideslider

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    Yep, that's the risk we take.
     
  7. acotrel

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    What MIGHT have happened, DID NOT happen. You cannot prove that something which did not happen, would have happened. If you thought about what might have happened every time you crashed, you would never race. A friend of mine once said ' every time we fall off our bike, we could be killed'. I simply do not think like that. The reality is that to be killed, you have to be extremely unlucky. Most times you will walk away. In road racing, you are more likely to die at home in bed of a heart attack. I have only ever had one crash which ever made me worry about the potential consequences, and I've had plenty of crashes. The thing is to not make a habit of crashing.
     
  8. oldbeezer

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    Yeah, but but some one unexpectedly grabbing your brake lever needlessly increases the odds.
     
  9. acotrel

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    The guy whose lever was tweaked was not blind. He let it happen without retaliating. If you race, you need to contend with silly stuff. If it happened to me, I would stomp on his foot and change him up or down a gear. You simply do not ride with a victim's mindset. Road-racing is about aggression. It is the same stuff that Spitfire pilots did during WW2 - without the machine guns.
     
  10. acotrel

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    In about 1973, I had a crash which changed my thinking about road racing. Another rider popped in front of me and grabbed a handful of disc brake. If I'd still been on the top of my head when I reached the ripple in the road, I'd probably be dead now. I have never intentionally crashed another rider, but these days if somebody did that sort of stupidity, I would simply bounce off them.
     
  11. grandpaul

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    That is perhaps the most absurd comment yet.

    WAR and racing are not even REMOTELY "the same stuff".

    In WAR you understand it is kill or be killed.

    In racing, you don't set out to kill, or even slightly injure, your opponent.

    Good grief.
     
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  12. Fast Eddie

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    Indeed !!
     
  13. acotrel

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    When I raced regularly, Allpowers C grade was the charge of the Light Brigade. ' He who hesitates is lost' ? A & B grade races were much more sensible. Even so, I once saw two A grade riders kicking each other as they came around Lukey Heights on Phillip Island.
     
  14. Bernhard

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    The victim did well not to retaliate if he had the race stewards would have given him an even heavier punishment for it.
     
  15. acotrel

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    'What the eye does not see, the heart does not grieve over.' As I said - a gentle lean to the right - it can be a moment of lost concentration. If you have a victim's mindset, you will be a victim. In his next race, that smart young guy might find himself headed for a fence. Depends on how experienced he is. It doesn't matter who you are in road racing, there is always somebody who is better on their day. Most of us ride with our brains in neutral, until we have the need to really go for it. Nobody can ride at 100% for every moment they are on the track. A friend of mine was one of the best A-grade riders in Victoria. When Ron Toombs used to race the Henderson Matchless, my friend was his main opposition. I watched him in about 8 races pressuring Toombs to make a mistake, but Ronnie never did - he was exceptional. I don't think he ever raced overseas, but he was our best ever - died at Bathurst while making a come-back..
     
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  16. Bernhard

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  17. Fast Eddie

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    Kinda a token gesture though as no one would put him on their bike this year anyway!
     
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  18. acotrel

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    In sport, anything which makes the crowd happy is excusable. Controlling bodies are very politic. Even if Romano is banned for the rest of the year, the next time he rides people will come especially to watch him. As an organiser, if you don't get spectators through the gate, the whole sport becomes non-viable.
    Yesterday there was a rugby match in Sydney in which a star player rammed his shoulder into another player. They are now debating the star's future. 'There is no such thing as bad publicity'.
     
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  19. Matt Spencer

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    What a pack of nancey boys .



    As Here , anybody but a city slicker or a poofter CAN SEE its the REPORTER attacking Bob Jones
    peace solitaryness & seclusion . I think defines competently ' hysterical Tart ' .
     
  20. Bernhard

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    re;"In sport, anything which makes the crowd happy is excusable."

    Motorcycle racing is supposed to be a non-contact sport, if the general public want to see sport where people get hurt, then boxing, wrestling , e.t.c., where sometimes a bit of blood gets in the ring is more their thing, come to think of it they in all probably do watch those sports too.
     
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