I'm not disputing the Bobbers comfort since it isn't a hardtail and they are touting the suspension as massively upgraded. Still sounds a little weird to me. Yea, I'm retired. I'm also the shopper and chef for the working family. I've done up to 250 on the Norton a few times. Not a problem. Don't forget, myNorton spent over 2 of 4 years at the shop waiting for parts. Also, since my leg was broken and I'm still recovering (just got the hardware yanked out) I'm keeping my rides to 50 to 100 miles. Anyway, we're still going to disagree on some of the fit and finish issues. Never said I didn't like either.