OHIO RIVER !!

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OHIO RIVER !!
OHIO RIVER !!
 
Lineslinger said:
Timeline of events from the Baltimore Sun this morning.

The tug boats left too soon.

Also....
I came across a portrait of the modern day mainstream broadcast network teleprompter reading talking head.
You know, the ones that claim to be hard working investigative journalists. Those "wanna' be an actor" types who actually spend their time in wardrobe, makeup, and on the plastic surgeons table while their minimum wage college kid staff surf the various social media platforms looking for their specified brand of "journalism:rolleyes:" to report as fact based researched confirmed truthful information.

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They don't teach that asina in my old-people's yoga class. Seems like tights would make it easier.
 
Thomasa said:
When I was a boy (1950s), the ship The Island Mail ran aground on an uncharted rock in Puget Sound just inside the Straits of Juan de Fuca. According to my father who was the insurance underwriter and had to visit the stricken vessel, the rock was common knowledge to harbor pilots. They came aboard at Port Angeles. The pilot (who shall remain nameless as I know his grand niece) in this case knew or should have known the location of the rock. I don't know or recall if he was censured in any way.

Decades later, after the city fathers had been arguing about as long over the need for a new high-level bridge over the Duamish River (functionally similar to the Ohio in the Baltimore case), the same pilot was in the wheelhouse of a ship that struck the pier on which was mounted the turntable for the movable span of the Spokane Street bridge. The strike knocked the pier just enough so the span could be swung only with great difficulty. The ships master was known to have a drinking problem and the pilot was IIRC by then 89 years old. He retired immediately afterwards. His niece pled no comment when I asked her about it at the time.

The city council finally relented and approved the bonds to build a new bridge but only on the cheap.
Three decades later that bridge was closed for more than two years while repairs were made to steel-reinforced concrete that hadn't been properly sealed during construction. There was litigation in all three cases. There will be litigation in Baltimore. There will be a new bridge in Baltimore.

Will they finally require tugs in Baltimore? There is a great movie, "Tug Boat Annie" (Annie Foss) starring Marjorie Main, made in 1933 about the rescue of a passenger liner from the Straits of Juan de Fuca. The tug used in the movie was the Aurthur Foss, a coal-burning steamer. With the proceeds from the movie rental Foss repowered the tug with a diesel making it one of the most powerful ocean-going tugs on the West coast. In 1941 it narrowly escaped being bombed by the Japanese near Midway Is. after towing a floating dry dock from San Francisco to Hawaii, then fuel and supply barges on to Midway. There is a long Wikipedia article about the Aurthur Foss. These tugs earn their keep or did in the day when economics allowed it. BTW the Aurthur Foss still sits on Lake Union in Seattle and last I knew was still operable.
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TUG BOAT ANNIE!!!
You have to have a lot of miles under belt to bring that up. :D :cool:
And yes, I've seen the movie, a few times. ;)
Had no idea of the actual boat. That's a cool story about the Arthur Foss....
Here's the Wiki link for those intereseted..
 
jan nelder said:
bridges built now , if done properly, have massive concrete bases which protect the bridge from such impacts. That one didn’t.
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Those massive protective bases were incorporated into support bases in reaction to just such an earlier accident just like this one.
The Key bridge was built before these protective modifications were mandated.
 
After reading the Wiki, I have a couple of correction for the record: The movie character Tugboat Anne was based on Thea Foss, founder of Foss Maritime. In the movie Anne was played by Marie Dressler not Marjorie Main who played her in the TV series in the late fifties. The tug Arthur Foss was working on Wake Is., not Midway as I wrote.

One addition: I was in the engine room of the Arthur Foss at the Seaport Museum when they fired up the huge 700 hp diesel. It is started with compressed air and shut down and restarted in the other rotation for reverse. The did both as I watched. The exposed camshaft has another set of lobes for reverse rotation and slides back and forth. Even at idle, the 6-foot prop obviously strains the dock to which it's moored. It will make 13 knots at full throttle and won many tugboat races on Puget Sound. The family's ~60' private launch is named the Anne Foss. It anchored near us in the Gulf Islands of B.C. one summer. It is green and white and absolutely "Bristol," as one might expect.
 
Groveling now huh?
If you get called out on your BS posts try owning up to them rather than posting more BS. Or do you just get your jollies taunting others while contributing falsehoods?
 
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Lineslinger said:
Groveling now huh?
If you get called out on your BS posts try owning up to them rather than posting more BS. Or do you just get your jollies taunting others while contributing falsehoods?
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The only BS post are yours. You people crack me up. You rail against the government, but the government is the only one looking out for you. 'Merica is based on greed, or more correctly termed a free market economy. You know what suffers in a free market economy, anything that takes away from the bottom line. The balance to this is the big ol bad government who imposes regulations on a whole host of things to include safety, all which would not happen for others to independently implement (because again, it takes away from the bottom line). So what you are actually advocating for is government intervention yet on the other hand you rail against the government. What a bunch of flipping hypocrites.

And BTW, it's the PATAPSCO RIVER.

 
I didn't advocate a pro or opposing stance against the govt. or its actions.
You dragged the political slant into the discussion.

I did make two notations on your inaccurate posting, both of them clearly wrong and you, based on your comments, just get more angry as said discussion continues.

As a reply, you offer up some name calling politically influenced rave advocating every one else's inadequacies and then add a rant categorizing the other participants as "you people".

Consider your own shortcomings before railing against those who don't fit your mandated profile.

The OP was not referring to the Patapsco river either.
 
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