Norton trouble

Al's#5 said:
Dec'19 registered, not sure how long it was in the shop, think it's an '18 model. Ref mpg, a refill of 10 litres after 100 miles seems about right.
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Nice one pics please ! One of last ones registered for sure , where r u in the UK ?
 
Bluey72e said:
Denmark you say, similar to Australia, exports a bazillion tonnes of fossil fuel and claims its doing the right thing morally.... hmmm

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...els-the-green-state-of-denmark/article793507/
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Interesting article, but somewhat dated:
"PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 29, 2009
This article was published more than 10 years ago. Some information in it may no longer be current"

The point is not that the Danes have solved the problem, rather that it's worth trying to solve it.
 
SteveBorland said:
Interesting article, but somewhat dated:
"PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 29, 2009
This article was published more than 10 years ago. Some information in it may no longer be current"

The point is not that the Danes have solved the problem, rather that it's worth trying to solve it.
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Article was update 3rd May 2018.
 
Al's#5 said:
Ref. CCM, I bought one of their Spitfires, took a while to get it but worth the wait, great bunch of lads. If SG had followed their business model we might all be happier bunnies.
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My friend has a ccm spitfire, and has had a few problems but the after sales service has been second to none, and a mechanic comes out to your house and replaces any issues within a couple of weeks, great service
 
Looks like someone will do parts, really sad his dodgy mate has gone into administration.

https://www.norvilmotorcycle.co.uk/

Not connected or no input - strange I have an email dated 19/08/19 form Garner himself saying that they work with Norvil. Looks like someone does not want the investigators knocking on their door.
 
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Back in 2013 a certain Mr Kinnersley, Norton UK, wrote the following:
“You can be assured the Norton Factory will NEVER abandon its valued riders.”
See post in NOC-forum:
https://www.nortonownersclub.org/comment/2227#comment-2227
In today’s light this statement got another sense...
I doubted already then - back to 2013! - the real meaning of this sentence regarding the bad relationship with the Swiss dealer at that time, see following post as reply to Mr Sean Kinnersley:
https://www.nortonownersclub.org/comment/2231#comment-2231
 
I am shocked but not really surprised how things came to an end at Donington. Actually, I am surprised that SG, SS and consortium could survive this long and even more surprised that the UK government supported all this regarding the enterprise history with CEO Garner several times meeting administrators in other businesses. Must be a really good salesman this SG! I hope government will take now the responsibilities and prosecute the persons responsible for this disaster...
 
Maybe it's my year's in purchasing weeding out useless salesmen that gave me enhanced radar sense, but Garner always came across to me as a chancer and bullshit merchant.
 
Seems to me that if a business is a sound investment then banks or venture capitalists will queue up with finance, if there isn't much of a case then seek a Govt handout.
 
kommando said:
Maybe it's my year's in purchasing weeding out useless salesmen that gave me enhanced radar sense, but Garner always came across to me as a chancer and bullshit merchant.
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Someone who visited the factory suggested a modern day Arthur Daley, but not that benign it now seems.
 
ntst8 said:
Someone who visited the factory suggested a modern day Arthur Daley, but not that benign it now seems.
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Our own salesmen included some chancers, they were focused on turnover, profit did not enter their brains and they would say and do anything to sell parts even if the factory then had to work overtime but lose money. As a result they had to be closely monitored or shown the door, but if ever one of them had took over as MD the company would have folded.
 
kommando said:
Our own salesmen included some chancers, they were focused on turnover, profit did not enter their brains and they would say and do anything to sell parts even if the factory then had to work overtime but lose money. As a result they had to be closely monitored or shown the door, but if ever one of them had took over as MD the company would have folded.
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Then you wonder how the hell a former gamekeeper like SG ended up as the CEO of a company who appears to have continually failed to run previous companies?
 
Sadly in life there are those will always stick their tongue on a PP3 battery, they know it hurts but still do it. If we all saw this issue from the start in the same way he would not have got off the ground and conmen / persons would not exist. His track record in 2008 said it all.
 
Bernhard said:
Then you wonder how the hell a former gamekeeper like SG ended up as the CEO of a company who appears to have continually failed to run previous companies?
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When the news first came out our Stu was to save Norton and build it up to a size never seen before the press was too dazzled by his firework (oooops!) of announcements they gladly forgot to have a look into Companies House records and to see the long list of all the companies that had already been burnt down by this bright spark (ooops again!) and gone bankrupt.

He who takes the trouble, does not believe what he reads in MCN, in subserviant club magazines blinded by backward-orientated patriotism and belief in miracles concerning their subject matter, or in the rose-tinted worldwide distributed articles of a certain racing journo, can normally form an opinion through readily available background information on the net.

My eye-opener was a personal encounter well before that. But not everybody had the privilege(?), and some came to the wrong conclusions through it, blinded by a smokescreen of words and fake enthusiasm. I had an old hand in the Norton game admit to me he sat next to SG at some do and was practically drunk on the conversation when he left. Until he got home and mulled it all over, compared it to his lifelong experience in the industry and came to the conclusion he had been had by a load of b.s.
 
ZFD said:
When the news first came out our Stu was to save Norton and build it up to a size never seen before the press was too dazzled by his firework (oooops!) of announcements they gladly forgot to have a look into Companies House records and to see the long list of all the companies that had already been burnt down by this bright spark (ooops again!) and gone bankrupt.

He who takes the trouble, does not believe what he reads in MCN, in subserviant club magazines blinded by backward-orientated patriotism and belief in miracles concerning their subject matter, or in the rose-tinted worldwide distributed articles of a certain racing journo, can normally form an opinion through readily available background information on the net.

My eye-opener was a personal encounter well before that. But not everybody had the privilege(?), and some came to the wrong conclusions through it, blinded by a smokescreen of words and fake enthusiasm. I had an old hand in the Norton game admit to me he sat next to SG at some do and was practically drunk on the conversation when he left. Until he got home and mulled it all over, compared it to his lifelong experience in the industry and came to the conclusion he had been had by a load of b.s.
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Hope you are right about MCN. So we don’t have to believe that the 961 rights and tooling have been sold to Jinlang as reported today (page 6).
 
Either they went for the proverbial Pound, or that is one of the usual MCN balloons.
And even for the Pound I find it hard to believe.
 
There was always the suspicion that the 961 would be dumped as soon as the V4 was up and running. This cannot be a sale undertaken by the administrators as they would not have fully reported as yet, so the suspicion must be the 961 rights sale, if correct, was a desperate play to get hands on cash by SG, it may be the Metro bank acted when they saw their charge over the company being sold off without their agreement.
 
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