Norton actually has new motorcycles in the USA

SS- as you said, if we actually get "real" road tests and real "dyno" numbers and someone that takes off the fairing to look and everything, then there might be some interest. But you need real ooooohs and ahhhhh's to get someone excited about an Indian product. That's what Mahindra did with its tractors, etc., when they entered the US market. Shiny photos don't do it.
 
NorTriDuc said:
No way you’re getting carbon body work and wheels for 24-30k usd.
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Well, they could be missing the whole phrase. "Carbon Fiber Look" or maybe they meant Carbon Fiber Wrap?? I think the high-end bike will have what they say, but it's all surface. fluff. They can hang all the high-end crap they want on it, but won't get it sold. Rather by a GSXR and upgrade than have a manufacturer put an OEM component on the bike. Even if it was "stock" Ohlins, you would still need to spring and valve it to your weight and riding style to make it right, so why not just do it right to begin with?
 
Used the word ‘random’ for a reason - I reckon this pricing is a guesstimation at best. The full carbon version is gonna be higher than that figure ya gotta think, with all that fruit. The base Manx R, who knows, but advertised at Ducati prices.

Not sure we need the debate about whether the Manx is an Indian bike again do we! 🤣
 
City Garage said:
Well, they could be missing the whole phrase. "Carbon Fiber Look" or maybe they meant Carbon Fiber Wrap?? I think the high-end bike will have what they say, but it's all surface. fluff. They can hang all the high-end crap they want on it, but won't get it sold. Rather by a GSXR and upgrade than have a manufacturer put an OEM component on the bike. Even if it was "stock" Ohlins, you would still need to spring and valve it to your weight and riding style to make it right, so why not just do it right to begin with?
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I believe the first edition will be carbon. But I don’t believe any bike is going to have carbon wheels and all carbon body work in the 25-30k range.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Used the word ‘random’ for a reason - I reckon this pricing is a guesstimation at best. The full carbon version is gonna be higher than that figure ya gotta think, with all that fruit. The base Manx R, who knows, but advertised at Ducati prices.

Not sure we need the debate about whether the Manx is an Indian bike again do we! 🤣
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You can’t buy a Ducati with full carbon for less than 50k usd.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Used the word ‘random’ for a reason - I reckon this pricing is a guesstimation at best. The full carbon version is gonna be higher than that figure ya gotta think, with all that fruit. The base Manx R, who knows, but advertised at Ducati prices.

Not sure we need the debate about whether the Manx is an Indian bike again do we! 🤣
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TVS is TVS no matter where its made...
 
City Garage said:
TVS is TVS no matter where its made...
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Seems like Max agrees with you!🙃

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Interesting vid answers the questions about spec we’ve been discussing.

First Edition model has all of the bling obviously - standard variant drops the carbon wheels and bodywork as expected. It also drops the semi active suspension by the look of it, which I’m suprised about. Guess all will be offered as extras.

Let’s see how it performs.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Interesting vid answers the questions about spec we’ve been discussing.

First Edition model has all of the bling obviously - standard variant drops the carbon wheels and bodywork as expected. It also drops the semi active suspension by the look of it, which I’m suprised about. Guess all will be offered as extras.

Let’s see how it performs.
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That’s not how I take what he said. He said 4 variants.

The top of the line model would most definitely have the carbon body, wheels, semi active suspension but not be a limited numbered model like the first edition. Which I’ll bet is just paint and numbering.
 
Ducati is owned by VAG (actually Audi factory workers union who are owned Audi who are owned by Volkswagen Auto Group). I was talking to a Ducati salesman about 10 years ago and he stated that getting parts for Ducati before would’ve taken over half year or more, now they use vag to ship parts world wide and they arrive at dealers in less than a month, something that tvs needs to have up and running to supply dealers world wide. Just like having trained technicians and special tools and repair manuals to service bikes at dealers, not having bikes picked up and sending them to some place to get a recall performed. When I was working for vag all recalls got done at the dealers, and every time a new model car came out vag shipped out special mandatory tools for that model. Technicians get trained on every new model that comes out
 
NorTriDuc said:
That’s not how I take what he said. He said 4 variants.

The top of the line model would most definitely have the carbon body, wheels, semi active suspension but not be a limited numbered model like the first edition. Which I’ll bet is just paint and numbering.
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Yep, didn’t watch all of the vids! There are to be 4 spec’s for the Manx R and Manx. First edition; high spec; mid spec and standard spec. Seems a very convoluted approach when the spec options seem relatively limited.
 
BritTwit said:
But that is the best you can reasonable expect from manufactures today, that is if you want a new machine.
Do you expect air cooled engines, CV carbs, straight exhausts, points and condenser ignitions to be offered today with all of the environmental regs?
Governments have made that impossible, for ever.
If you want a true classic, you'll have to build one up from parts for yourself.
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Is it possible to buy a new Norton motor and gearbox without anything else ? That would be an interesting and easy project. There are still good racing frames and tanks available. In all legislation, there is usually some provision for home-built vehicles. In Australia, it involves an Engineer's certificate.
 
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acotrel said:
Is it possible to buy a new Norton motor and gearbox without anything else ? That would be an interesting and easy project. There are still good racing frames and tanks available. In all legislation, there is usually some provision for home-built vehicles. In Australia, it involves an Engineer's certificate.
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I most US states there are provisions for "home built" machines to be registered for road use.
I suppose it's possible to source a complete engine from ebay, but I doubt that TVS/Norton would sell just a new engine to an individual customer. Even if they did, one would have to have the means to engineer the completed machine.
That's not a practical plan for most people.
 
acotrel said:
Is it possible to buy a new Norton motor and gearbox without anything else ? That would be an interesting and easy project. There are still good racing frames and tanks available. In all legislation, there is usually some provision for home-built vehicles. In Australia, it involves an Engineer's certificate.
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Why limit yourself to a 961 when there are so many other better choices. Especially ones that you can get parts for.
 

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