New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy

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JS Wiseco forged pistons are now available in 4032 alloy. They have the same expansion rate as stock cast pistons and use the same installation clearance. They allow for a tighter installation fit in the cylinder than the popular 2618 alloy forged racing pistons. So now you have a strong lightweight forged piston with tight cylinder clearances plus an extended skirt tang to prevent rocking. All surfaces machined.

With the skirt coating
New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy


Without the skirt coating
New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy


Available in standard (200 grams) or high compression (216 grams).
 
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Jim
parroting Fast Eddie, can they be supplied 81mm in dia, without valve cutouts?, so i can modify them to suit the merlin 8 valve head.
regards
Peter
 
How do they compare for weight.............and price?

And if say you were using your pistons already would there be a need to rebalance the crank?

Should I assume Wisco is a typo for Wiseco?

The reason I ask is because in another engine, an OHC single, I have had a 4 point cold seizure which was thought typical on that particular model with Wiseco pistons. I changed to a differnt make and have not had a problem. Of course I have no idea if that piston is of similar materials and I know other have used Wiseco piston in a range of applications with no issues.
 
Wiseco makes pistons in both 2618 and 4032 alloy and they have different expansion rates (4032 expands about .001" less). The gram weights are close to other JS lightweight pistons. Prices are the same.

I can only get the Wiseco pistons in 850cc. I am working on 4032 alloy for the 750s and 920s from another piston maker but it will take awhile.

After many years I've finally come full circle back to Wiseco pistons. Below are the 1st lightweight Wisco pistons I was racing with in the mid 1980's

New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy


The JS 2618 racing alloy pistons (JE brand) can be specially coated with the durable graphite based coating for a installation clearance of around .0035 to .004" depending or bore size. This is what Yves was using for his 920 and he measured a clearance a little over .004" after break in. So there is more than one way to go about getting the tight clearance. See stepped 920cc graphite coated piston below.

New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy
 
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Interesting new choice. The text below, taken from an Engine Builders article, with most of the info from a Mahle engineer, discusses the pros and cons of 4032 vs 2618. It does sound like 4032 is a better choice for most Commando builds, as long as you're not running forced induction, nitro, or nitrous.

Ken

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Hypereutectic


Cast hypereutectic pistons have several benefits in OEM applications as well as some performance applications. Most OEM modular engines with the exception of the extremely high performance

models have been using cast hypereutectic pistons since day one, including the current Coyote 5.0. According to McFarland hypereutectic alloys are highly resistant to expansion, and wear extremely well. This allows OEM manufacturers, or builders in the aftermarket to construct an engine with extremely tight piston to cylinder wall clearances since the piston will not expand enough to cause a problem. These alloys also have a high resistance to scuffing which improves their wear resistance. The biggest downfall to a hypereutectic alloy is its high silicon content. The high silicon content makes the piston more brittle, and under violent detonation, such as that which can occur when things go wrong in a nitrous or forced induction engine, these pistons can be catastrophically damaged.

Eutectic 4032

With new piston designs creating a physical model for test fitting and final design verification is a key part of the final design process.

Eutectic alloys should not be confused with hypereutectic alloys. 4032 is the most common eutectic alloy used in pistons. It does contain some silicon content, however it is much lower and more tightly controlled than in a hypereutectic piston. 4032 pistons are also forged, rather than cast, further eliminating the larger pockets of silicon found in many hypereutectic pistons.

According to McFarland these alloys don’t typically need hard anodizing for the ring areas or the rest of the piston, as they’re strong enough to resist micro-welding in many cases. They posses good wear characteristics, and McFarland says their combination of strength and wear resistance make them well suited for a variety of applications where a forged piston is necessary.

Many high performance engines run pistons with this alloy including endurance racers, forced induction applications, and even some OEM applications. “This is an ideal choice for modern engines with tight controls on the fuel system and ignition timing, where detonation is not an issue,” says McFarland.

2618 X-Material

2618 is the racer’s alloy, also known as X-material. This alloy contains no more than .25 percent silicon. It is strong, yet under heat and pressure it becomes malleable. According to McFarland that malleable characteristic actually allows the piston to distort under extreme conditions without fracturing, or failing. This can save other engine components during extreme detonation.

There are drawbacks to using 2618 pistons though. According to McFarland that distortion which saves the engine, may require the pistons to be replaced as part of periodic maintenance. We’re not talking about after every race, but where racers running a milder setup with 4032 alloy pistons might perform a ring and seal replacement between seasons, a racer with a 2618 alloy piston may need to replace their entire set of rings and pistons.
 
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They come in quantities of 12 so a pair without valve cutouts would be prohibitively expensive. I would special order a pair in 2618 alloy with the graphite coating to tighten things up.

Lcrken
4032 and 2618 alloys have their pros and cons. The 2618 can take more temp (approx 35 deg F) and thats something you have to consider with 12:1+ C.R. and the higher temp it brings.

My personal experience with cast pistons is that over revving them loosened up the ring lands resulting in top ring breakage. I haven't seen that happening with the forged pistons.
 
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Jim,

Are those 4032 pistons only available for your longer Carillo rods or for ´standard' length OEM rods as well?

Best,

Bruno
 
They only fit the longer rods. The piston design is the same, just a different alloy. Wiseco did a beautiful job with the internal milling.
 
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The 850 pistons shown above are Wiseco.

The 750 pistons and 81mm pistons are Wossner brand.

These are the only Forged Norton pistons available with 4032 low expansion alloy and they were a long time coming.

Note that forged pistons are stronger than cast or billet pistons.

Wossner drawing below.

New Wiseco pistons with low expansion alloy
 
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