New pipes for 2016 961 Commando Sport MKII

TonyA · Jan 26, 2018

Factory will advise map 077 with post Jan 2016 Bin file . We can check with Richard-7 . There may be something newer but you'll have to ask dealer/Norton.

byjefsm · Jan 26, 2018

LEXngton said:
Just purchased a 2016 Commando Sport MKII and wonder what you guys suggest about the following. I'd like to change mufflers so as to get a better & louder sound and I see that AF1 Racing has these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons (which are used on the new Norton Dominator) available for purchase. Also they have Norton De-Cat Crossover Pipes available.

https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86483
https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts ... duct=86498

My questions are these:

1) Has anyone installed these Norton Short Open Slip-Ons onto their own 961's and if so how were your results?

2) Do you recommend installing the De-Cat Crossover Pipes when putting on the Short Open Slip Ons (if so why) or is this not needed?

3) Will my 961 need to be remapped if I were to install the above named Norton Short Open SLip-Ons? (I live FAR away from any Norton dealer so this would be an almost impossible task for me to do right now).

byjefsm · Jan 26, 2018

Yes you will need to re-map your ecu. The short slip-ons have a separate map. You have a Omex ECU and AF1 can remap it if you ship it to them. Indian of OC can also remap your Omex for those pipes. MCC and Noble Rush also.... you just need to send it to them.

caldwelp · Jan 29, 2018

Coming to this discussion late but I purchase a new 2016 Commando Mk II last year and had the dealer install the factory competition mufflers and they remapped the EFI. The difference between the bike with stock mufflers (which of course look great because they look like the old style ones) and the bike with the competition mufflers (which have a shorter length and larger opening and look exactly like the AFI ones...incidently I paid $1000 for both the mufflers and the retuning as a part of my purchase contract)....It was like getting a BRAND NEW BIKE!! The Norton with the short pipies ran better (smoother up and down on engines revs and it was quicker across all power bands) and IT SOUNDS LIKE A NORTON SHOULD SOUND!!
If anyone is considereing whether or not to do this STOP HESITATING AND JUST DO IT!!

Sgt80 · Jan 29, 2018

caldwelp said:
Coming to this discussion late but I purchase a new 2016 Commando Mk II last year and had the dealer install the factory competition mufflers and they remapped the EFI. The difference between the bike with stock mufflers (which of course look great because they look like the old style ones) and the bike with the competition mufflers (which have a shorter length and larger opening and look exactly like the AFI ones...incidently I paid $1000 for both the mufflers and the retuning as a part of my purchase contract)....It was like getting a BRAND NEW BIKE!! The Norton with the short pipies ran better (smoother up and down on engines revs and it was quicker across all power bands) and IT SOUNDS LIKE A NORTON SHOULD SOUND!!
If anyone is considereing whether or not to do this STOP HESITATING AND JUST DO IT!!

Hi caldwelp
Which dealer did the remapping and which map did they install. I'm just over the hill from you in Sonoma County. Great to hear that all is well after the remap!

caldwelp · Jan 29, 2018

SgtUSAF80 said:
Hi caldwelp
Which dealer did the remapping and which map did they install. I'm just over the hill from you in Sonoma County. Great to hear that all is well after the remap!

Sarge, haven't located a good shop or mechanic here in the North Bay YET! I found a very knowledgeable clasic Norton mechanic (does it in his spare time, not as a business) in Sonoma, CA . The 2016 I bought in Westminister CA and they did the mapping, I think just using factory setting instrucLet's keep in touch as tions.
I haven't had time to put in the various upgrades that are recommended. I have some of the parts and will probably begin the upgrades as warmer drier weather arrives. As I just finished my relocation back to Northern CA with in the past few months I have been working a fair amount in order to pay off the cost of moving. The difference between a stock 961 and the 961 with competition pipes was AMAZING. It felt like a completely different bike! Let's keep in touch as we 961 owners are a minority here in the North Bay counties. Peter

Sgt80 · Jan 29, 2018

caldwelp said:
Sarge, haven't located a good shop or mechanic here in the North Bay YET! I found a very knowledgeable clasic Norton mechanic (does it in his spare time, not as a business) in Sonoma, CA . The 2016 I bought in Westminister CA and they did the mapping, I think just using factory setting instrucLet's keep in touch as tions.
I haven't had time to put in the various upgrades that are recommended. I have some of the parts and will probably begin the upgrades as warmer drier weather arrives. As I just finished my relocation back to Northern CA with in the past few months I have been working a fair amount in order to pay off the cost of moving. The difference between a stock 961 and the 961 with competition pipes was AMAZING. It felt like a completely different bike! Let's keep in touch as we 961 owners are a minority here in the North Bay counties. Peter

Thanks for the response! Ignition coil, plugs, plug wires, Bosch sensors and head bolt torque@1,000miles are all well worth it. Easy to do with no specialty tools needed. Richard-7's manuals are very helpful. Heck, right now is riding weather! Get to it as you find the time. It doesn't all have to be done at once.

gchoppin · Jul 17, 2018

I've seen the open shorties that most 961 owner have installed when making that change Called AF1 Racing today about what the long open pipes look like they say they couldn't find a picture to send me. I know I've seen an email address for Norton customer support issues in other threads. Does anyone know it offhand?

TonyA · Jul 18, 2018

gchoppin said:
I've seen the open shorties that most 961 owner have installed when making that change Called AF1 Racing today about what the long open pipes look like they say they couldn't find a picture to send me. I know I've seen an email address for Norton customer support issues in other threads. Does anyone know it offhand?

rob.jameson@nortonmotorcycles.com

TonyA · Jul 18, 2018

Dkluyskens said:
What map do you run on your Mk2 with shorties and decat pipe ?

What I said earlier is wrong. You have a MK2 a OMEX ECU and Euro4 so your numbers are much different. I have a SC ECU . Ask Norton or the Norton dealer , there are different ECU's and maps now .

GoingCommando · Oct 7, 2018

Is the exhaust and mounting any different on an MkII vs. the original models? I have a 2014 SF and just wondering if the decat X-Pipe listed for the mkII models will work with my bike.

http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scri...0396&description=Norton+De-Cat+Crossover+Pipe

I have the original SB Torque silencers. I think I want to finally get rid of the cat and get it remapped (still on stock ECU mapping).

TonyA · Oct 8, 2018

Yes they are the same , The MK2 pipes fit the MK1 .

gchoppin · Oct 9, 2018

I've been in touch with Ollie at Thiel Mortorsports (Germany) regarding their versions of the 961 exhaust. As of three weeks ago they were reworking some fitment issues. Apparently there are variations of the y-pipes to deal with. Still think I'm going to give their version of the shorties a shot.

Fast Eddie · Oct 9, 2018

gchoppin said:
I've been in touch with Ollie at Thiel Mortorsports (Germany) regarding their versions of the 961 exhaust. As of three weeks ago they were reworking some fitment issues. Apparently there are variations of the y-pipes to deal with. Still think I'm going to give their version of the shorties a shot.

Good choice! They look very good IMHO.