Looking for the anodized 930 Amal slides

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Has anyone located any of these slides for sale in the USA? British Cycle is still waiting to get some and Rabers says not yet for them too. I have no problem ordering them from England it just seems a bit fruitless to order from Amal if major USA suppliers are not able to get them. Any thoughts are appreciated.
 
Yellow_Cad said:
Has anyone located any of these slides for sale in the USA? British Cycle is still waiting to get some and Rabers says not yet for them too. I have no problem ordering them from England it just seems a bit fruitless to order from Amal if major USA suppliers are not able to get them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

Just order from them directly. When I ordered parts it was actually cheaper to split the order they way they have their shipping fees, so look into that.

I think ti came pretty fast.

I say order direct.
 
swooshdave said:
Yellow_Cad said:
Has anyone located any of these slides for sale in the USA? British Cycle is still waiting to get some and Rabers says not yet for them too. I have no problem ordering them from England it just seems a bit fruitless to order from Amal if major USA suppliers are not able to get them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

Just order from them directly. When I ordered parts it was actually cheaper to split the order they way they have their shipping fees, so look into that.

I think ti came pretty fast.

I say order direct.

Dave, have you ordered any of these hard slides from Amal?
 
I'm not sure hard-anodised slies would help. The caarb bodies are basically pot-metal and harder slides would just wear them out faster, Also, as I found out almost to my departure from this mortal coil, the slides are individually lapped to fit the body, I don't know if there's any i/d marks to show that.

I found out the hard way when I rode a company hack 650SS to and from work. When I first started riding it, it had the stock twin-carb set-up. We got a message from Plumstead that they wanted the bike back to do some testing on a single carb set-up that might give the sidecar users better performance.

We took the carbs off and shipped the bike to Plumstead. When we got it back, without the single carb set-up, I re-installed the original twin carbs. I hadn't tagged which slide fitted which carb - never considered they weren't interchangeable. On the way home from work, as is typical of UK traffic, I was working my way between the slow-moving cars. I did a quick blip and pulled in behind a double decker bus. Closed the throttle and found it stuck wide open. Boy, did that get my attention!

Fortunately it was a magneto ignition bike and had a very prominent kill button right by the throttle twist grip. Disaster was narrowly averted. I rode cautiously back to work the next morning and consulted with my colleagues. That was when I learned that carb bodies and slides were a matched pair!

Because the carb bodies are such a soft material, I'd be a bit reluctant to put hard-anodised slides in. The regular brass ones are sufficiently harder than the bodies and will bed themsleves in to give a good fit for quite a while. Hard anodised may wear the slide bores more quickly and negate any improvements.

Must admit, I'm not familiar with the 930, so mybe my comments don't apply.
 
Yellow_Cad said:
swooshdave said:
Yellow_Cad said:
Has anyone located any of these slides for sale in the USA? British Cycle is still waiting to get some and Rabers says not yet for them too. I have no problem ordering them from England it just seems a bit fruitless to order from Amal if major USA suppliers are not able to get them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

Just order from them directly. When I ordered parts it was actually cheaper to split the order they way they have their shipping fees, so look into that.

I think ti came pretty fast.

I say order direct.

Dave, have you ordered any of these hard slides from Amal?

I don't think they were available when I ordered so I just got the standard ones. But I'll get some when these wear out. I got the Stayup floats, new slides and full rebuild kits.
 
Hand fitted British quality of manufacture, how quaint is that?

In cases where bores are already worn so even great ignition timing it still would not return to idle I put in anodized slides and they fit tighter than the fluted worn ones but plenty slick and square motion the springs return w/o help. Every one should reflexly think about key buttons as never know when that's only shut down ya got.
It should be a on/off too and not intermittent held and held and held to kill. UGH.
I took chance that the bores were so worn a #3 slide would make up for it and seems to have as idles nice and responsive like a Combat should be.

If it don't work out the you have two slides to apply to new carbs or resleeved ones.
 
ordered 4 from Amal directly 1.5 weeks ago and got them yesterday.

FYI.

And as for wearing out the carb faster????? then why do so many people sleave or put chromed brass slides in?

At any rate, from what I've researched, if the carbs are still good and servicable, these HA forged slides will help extend their life. $30 a pop is not bad and they do look sweat and seem to be a far bit heavier than the stockers, which is good IMO.
 
lrutt said:
ordered 4 from Amal directly 1.5 weeks ago and got them yesterday.

FYI.

And as for wearing out the carb faster????? then why do so many people sleave or put chromed brass slides in?

At any rate, from what I've researched, if the carbs are still good and servicable, these HA forged slides will help extend their life. $30 a pop is not bad and they do look sweat and seem to be a far bit heavier than the stockers, which is good IMO.

Are you in the USA? I can't tell by your post.
 
Yellow_Cad said:
lrutt said:
ordered 4 from Amal directly 1.5 weeks ago and got them yesterday.

FYI.

And as for wearing out the carb faster????? then why do so many people sleave or put chromed brass slides in?

At any rate, from what I've researched, if the carbs are still good and servicable, these HA forged slides will help extend their life. $30 a pop is not bad and they do look sweat and seem to be a far bit heavier than the stockers, which is good IMO.

Are you in the USA? I can't tell by your post.

Yes, Florida. Will update my profile
 
Just put my first one in my 71 Trophy. I was in error and the slide is actually a little lighter than the stocker. But I did note the play between slide and body before the new one went in and the new one definately seemed to take up some of the slop a bit. Yet it still moves freely, at least while cold.
 
I'm using chromed brass slides from Amal agent 'Surrey cycles' . Have been in two years now and have 7000 miles on them with nominal wear only. These are heavy compared to std and do give the throttle a more solid feel, subjectively.
 
I recently spent some time measuring my collection of worn Mk1 slides with a micrometer and they were no more than 0.002" different from an unworn part. That was despite looking pretty rough. The majority of the wear takes place in the body. I plan to bore my old bodies to suit a Mikuni VM34 slide and modify the slide to fit an amal needle and solder a small peg in to stop the slide twisting. I'm looking for a working clearance of 0.003"
 
As I understand it, the whole deal with Amal carbs is the fact that Amal made the slides and carbs from the same material which originally was pot metal. 101 engineering says similar metal do not wear well against each other and dissimilar metals do. So it is not so much that the slides are hard or not but primarily that they are dissimilar metals. That is why a brass slide works fine. The anodize or the chrome is dissimilar to the metal surface of the carb body. Pot metal to pot metal has got to be one of the worst combos.
 
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