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Stephen_Spencer said:
Not something I would say lightly FE, but you lack the most important of qualities - integrity. You have demonstrated that on multiple occasions.

Your problem, not mine.
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There you go again, the chap who complains about miss characterisation is casting aspersions. In fact, no he isn’t, he’s making very specific and unfounded accusations.

The truth is I read that particular point of yours a few times before deciding that is what you really meant. It made sense, you were offering it up as a reason for a miss-understanding which fitted in perfectly with the conversation. Now, you may criticise me for my reading or interpretations skills, but that’s how it was. But ultimately, my perception can only come from the words you write, but you do not / cannot accept this.

So, simply put, you are just plain wrong. You wrote badly, causing me to totally misread your actual point. It most certainly has nothing to do with my personal integrity and I am actually seriously offended by that.

Unless you have got some much, MUCH better evidence, I strongly suggest that you keep people’s personal integrity out of such public debates.

This is yet another thing which, according to you, is to be added to the list of my actions that are aimed at you. This list exists only in your mind Stephen, it is not real, you need to move on.
 
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Fires have ravaged Maui, Canada, Greece, France, Australia etc...But when you look at the bigger picture something is definitely off.... Government mismanagement issues are generally the first thing we see in these provinces/countries/states...land acquisitions, (Maui)...and even newly created laws definitely make you wonder...do they not ??

When you see/observe the puzzling behavior of those leading the scare campaign about CO2 emissions, it’s also very strange to see them allowing forest fires to ignite and spread unchecked.... It also makes you question their intentions, considering we’ve always being told that carbon dioxide is so harmful and threatens our planet... (Fear)

So why are they contributing to increased CO2 levels by allowing trees, which absorb carbon, to be destroyed ?🤔

The answer could very well be ...
LAND REAPPROPRIATION...
When people cannot win on a fair playing/battle field, they use fire.... And they use fire to destroy an old appropriation of land and reappropriate it to/for a new use.....This behavior has been going on for centuries....And it is not the first time the elite want to shut down the family farm etc and use climate as the excuse....History always repeats..
 
Fast Eddie said:
There you go again, the chap who complains about miss characterisation is casting aspersions. In fact, no he isn’t, he’s making very specific and unfounded accusations.

The truth is I read that particular point of yours a few times before deciding that is what you really meant. It made sense, you were offering it up as a reason for a miss-understanding which fitted in perfectly with the conversation. Now, you may criticise me for my reading or interpretations skills, but that’s how it was. But ultimately, my perception can only come from the words you write, but you do not / cannot accept this.

So, simply put, you are just plain wrong. You wrote badly, causing me to totally misread your actual point. It most certainly has nothing to do with my personal integrity and I am actually seriously offended by that.

Unless you have got some much, MUCH better evidence, I strongly suggest that you keep people’s personal integrity out of such public debates.

This is yet another thing which, according to you, is to be added to the list of my actions that are aimed at you. This list exists only in your mind Stephen, it is not real, you need to move on.
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Not at all concerned with your sensibilities FE - you show no regard for mine.

The only thing I “wrote badly” was the summary sentence you happily now refer to/use above:-

‘I did’nt use the word (perpetual) incorrectly because I don’t understand what perpetual motion means’ - a classic double entendre. Whoops! ‘My bad‘ as the youff say!

It has one meaning that supports everything I wrote prior to that point (which I laid out pretty clearly for you) or, if taken deliberately out of context, can mean almost the opposite. No prizes for which you now decide is accurate, and, was what I actually meant to say all alongo_O!! - Any mischaracterisation there at all FE?

- My badly worded ‘final’ statement caused you to mis-read my ‘original‘ point!?
- I ‘may criticise you for your reading and interpretation skills’!?

Now I know that you are just taking the piss!🤣!

Happy to end here unless you are happy to continue with whatever it is you are trying to achieve.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Not at all concerned with your sensibilities FE - you show no regard for mine.

The only thing I “wrote badly” was the summary sentence you happily now refer to/use above:-

‘I did’nt use the word (perpetual) incorrectly because I don’t understand what perpetual motion means’ - a classic double entendre. Whoops! ‘My bad‘ as the youff say!

It has one meaning that supports everything I wrote prior to that point (which I laid out pretty clearly for you) or, if taken deliberately out of context, can mean almost the opposite. No prizes for which you now decide is accurate, and, was what I actually meant to say all alongo_O!! - Any mischaracterisation there at all FE?

- My badly worded ‘final’ statement caused you to mis-read my ‘original‘ point!?
- I ‘may criticise you for your reading and interpretation skills’!?

Now I know that you are just taking the piss!🤣!

Happy to end here unless you are happy to continue with whatever it is you are trying to achieve.
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That’s great to finally hear Stephen. I suggested that we ended this and moved on several posts ago. Glad you’ve finally caught up !
 
Hmmm. Any Lithium battery production facilities under attack lately? Why don't the greenies go after them? Hardly making environmentally correct stuff there you know. What about the vast numbers of solar cells and what will become of them when they are expired? Windmill blades anyone?
 
Onder said:
Hmmm. Any Lithium battery production facilities under attack lately? Why don't the greenies go after them? Hardly making environmentally correct stuff there you know. What about the vast numbers of solar cells and what will become of them when they are expired? Windmill blades anyone?
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Silence pleb.

The Emperors clothes are a wonder to behold…
 
If I can see it anyone can see it. But then you have to be willing to look. If your gig was threatened by your not attending re-education rah rah rah sessions, how willing are you not to be attending? If you need to pump out
another scholarly paper right sharpish, how long can you resist not simply picking one up from a journal paper
factory online paying by card and mailing it in?
Physics always follows the path of least resistance. I have endless examples as I worked for the taxpayer for 20 years.
 
texasSlick said:
Price of fuel going up!


If it isn't food processing plants, it's refineries.......

Slick
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Here is a whole bunch of coincidences

Link to interactive map of all of the food
👇 processing plants and facilities that have recently caught on fire or have been destroyed.

#NPMA2021 - 2022 map

PLEASE NOTE: IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IT MUST HAVE A LINK FOR THE PROOF OR I WON'T PUT IT ON THE MAP BECAUSE I CANNOT PROVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP! :) (View)
www.zeemaps.com
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Not something I would say lightly FE, but you lack the most important of qualities - integrity. You have demonstrated that on multiple occasions.

Your problem, not mine.
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Actually it is your problem.

Having kept up with this thread from the beginning I can offer one more observation...if anyone posting on this thread lacks a well founded base for integrity...It is certainly NOT Fast Eddie.
Consider your own entitled accusations before pointing that provoking blame finger that you flail around so disrespectfully toward others.

The integrity displayed throughout this thread remains well established in FE's wheelhouse.
 
Lineslinger said:
Actually it is your problem.

Having kept up with this thread from the beginning I can offer one more observation...if anyone posting on this thread lacks a well founded base for integrity...It is certainly NOT Fast Eddie.
Consider your own entitled accusations before pointing that provoking blame finger that you flail around so disrespectfully toward others.

The integrity displayed throughout this thread remains well established in FE's wheelhouse.
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Your response is expected.

I reject it as expected.

As we seem to have a collective focus on ‘integrity’ though, why not use that focus and introduce some integrity to this discussion (and others similar).

May I respectfully suggest that as a group (and as individuals):

- We allow alternate views to be aired in an open respectful way.
- Those that do not agree with the more conspiratorial content might discuss that with those that do, rather than stepping back from conversation until more common (if currently one-sided) ground is re-established.

My opinion only.
 
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Stephen_Spencer said:
Your response is expected.

I reject it as expected.

As we seem to have a collective focus on ‘integrity’ though, why not use that focus and introduce some integrity to this discussion (and others similar).

May I respectfully suggest that as a group (and as individuals):

- We allow alternate views to be aired in an open respectful way.
- Those that do not agree with the more conspiratorial content might discuss that with those that do, rather than stepping back from conversation until more common (if currently one-sided) ground is re-established.

My opinion only.
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Who exactly is stopping anyone from putting the other point of view forward???
Personally I'd welcome it !
But I'd hazard a guess that given the age group of this forum most of us can see the flaws and untruths in the (current ) green ideology agenda
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Your response is expected.

I reject it as expected.

As we seem to have a collective focus on ‘integrity’ though, why not use that focus and introduce some integrity to this discussion (and others similar).

May I respectfully suggest that as a group (and as individuals):

- We allow alternate views to be aired in an open respectful way.
- Those that do not agree with the more conspiratorial content might discuss that with those that do, rather than stepping back from conversation until more common (if currently one-sided) ground is re-established.

My opinion only.
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I agree with your points. But I think that MOST of the time, they already exist.

Things go downhill when people lose their composure, for whatever reason, and debate ends up in name calling, personal attacks, etc.

I would ask that you keep prodding healthy debate, but please do so by bringing your actual personal option to the table, backed up by clips and facts and whatever research as you see fit, rather than simply engaging in a kind of clip copying ping pong.

But you do honestly need to recognise (as mentioned previously) that due to the title and nature of this thread, and the majority participants personal opinions, you will be arguing against the collective opinion, so you are by default going to be, and therefore feel, outnumbered at times.

So if you can engage in debate whilst accepting that, rather than blaming people for it, please do so.
 
William Happer, professor emeritus in physics at Princeton University, and Richard Lindzen, professor emeritus of atmospheric science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), have both gone on the record to warn that the claims made by FJB EPA are based on a “hoax” and only serve to advance the globalist green agenda.
slaynews.com

Renowned Climate Scientists Warn Public: Green Agenda Based on 'Hoax' - Slay News

Two of the world's most renowned climate scientists have spoken out to warn the public that the green agenda being peddled by the World Economic Forum (WEF) and its globalist allies is based on a "hoax."
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Stephen_Spencer said:
Your response is expected.

I reject it as expected.

As we seem to have a collective focus on ‘integrity’ though, why not use that focus and introduce some integrity to this discussion (and others similar).

May I respectfully suggest that as a group (and as individuals):

- We allow alternate views to be aired in an open respectful way.
- Those that do not agree with the more conspiratorial content might discuss that with those that do, rather than stepping back from conversation until more common (if currently one-sided) ground is re-established.

My opinion only.
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ANYONE who questions the establishments party line about anything is labelled thus these days. Just look at Kahn and how he’s labelled anyone questioning his ULEZ stuff…
 


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