Barry Sheene Memorial 2023

I noticed an MV3. I thought they had been excluded. The Barry Sheene Memorial Trophy is real motorcycle road racing. It is very similar to what actually happened. I like the Landsborough series, but the Barry Sheene is better. We can see who can really ride. I think some of the MotoGP riders get a shock when they ride in that.
 
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That Le Mans start and having to swap riders to "amateurs" after halfway point makes it quite a spectacle.

Apparently quite a few Domi's in that event. I tried to watch closely but could not tell if they were being shifted with left or right foot and what shift pattern. I supposed they are allowed to go with the five speed boxes and even setup left foot shifter if they wanted? Would be an extra problem for the pro riders to have to adjust to the GP shifting and right foot, no?
 
I think Tom Phillis did a 100 MPH lap of the IOM on the Domiracer. But what some people do not seem to realise, is it is the position of the centre of gravity which helps the Manx to handle better than any Triton. A Dominator would probably be faster if it had a weight attached low down in front of the motor.
With my 500cc Triton, I could not get decent lap times until I moved the motor as far forward as possible,and even then it did not handle as well as the Manx I rode. Then I fitted 18 inch wheels and the handling became too heavy. My mates 650 Triton has 18 inch wheels and the motor is that inch further back. It is very pleasant to ride, but cannot be ridden fast in corners - it is very fast down the straights.
 
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Fat tyres usually have less grip per unit area than skinny tyres. Tate 60s brought better compounds. It is really strange - I learned to rise on T1 compound triangular racing tyres - you adjust to the way they feel. I was away from road racing from about 1980 to 2000. When I came back, I found I was faster than many in the wet.
I cannot think of the guys name, but the year before last hec did extremely well in the Barry Sheene. He was one of the fast riders whrn Manx Nortons were the go.
I saw a video of Wayne Gardner riding a Manx. When he got off the bike, he cried and said ' I did not know what they were riding'.
 
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What are the rules for that Le Mans start? Why was one rider already seated, not having to dash across track at the start? He ended up in lead off the line. Looked like all the bikes had drum front brakes from what I could see. Also, some with right foot "GP" pattern (1 up 3 down) shifting, but some have modern left foot setups. Personal preference or determined by the bike spec?
 
European and Japanese bikes usually have the change lever on the left hand side. Brits are always on the right, except for the Mk3 and probably 961 Commandos. Triumph might now be also on the left. My mate's son said he cannot ride a bike with the change on the right. That is rubbish - all he needs to do is avoid using the rear brake. Your mind swaps over almost immediately. I always have my change lever so it is up for first and down for the rest. You push forward to go forward and pull back to slow down. I have raced both British and Japanese bikes without getting confused.
 
Tornado said:
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What are the rules for that Le Mans start? Why was one rider already seated, not having to dash across track at the start? He ended up in lead off the line. Looked like all the bikes had drum front brakes from what I could see. Also, some with right foot "GP" pattern (1 up 3 down) shifting, but some have modern left foot setups. Personal preference or determined by the bike spec?
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I cannot think of the guy's name who was seated. He is so old that he is unable to run across the track. I wish I could remember his name, he is very well known and was one of the good guys in the old days. He has to keep his left arm in the air until the other guys arrive from their run across the track.
 
Tornado said:
Another round of racing here:



What are the rules for that Le Mans start? Why was one rider already seated, not having to dash across track at the start? He ended up in lead off the line. Looked like all the bikes had drum front brakes from what I could see. Also, some with right foot "GP" pattern (1 up 3 down) shifting, but some have modern left foot setups. Personal preference or determined by the bike spec?
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Personal preference. It's easily done with a cross over shaft across the frame. We had the Rob Norths set up for both, so easily swapped depending on the rider. For Endurance racing we had both riders using right foot change, but one preferred one up, and the other one down, easily done during a pit stop by extending the linkage at the gearbox to swap over. It took 5 seconds to swap the linkage. Italian bikes of the preiod also had right foot change, despite what some ex spurts will try to tell you. Joey Dunlop had all his works Hondas with right foot change, and in the 80s when we raced an F2 Honda, that was modified to right foot change too. Pretty easy to do
 
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I cannot think of the guy's name who was seated. He is so old that he is unable to run across the track. I wish I could remember his name, he is very well known and was one of the good guys in the old days. He has to keep his left arm in the air until the other guys arrive from their run across the track.
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Wrong, wrong and wrong

Glen English is far from old and decrepid........
 
I have had a reply to my query on the actual video comments section from the son of the rider seen sitting on the bike at the start. Story is there is an allowance in the start procedure for those unable to make the sprint across the track. They can be astride the bike. This rider had a knee injury and so was given the allowance.
Just re-watched the start in slow motion and I see at least two bikes with riders already astride prior to the sprint across the track...#125 and #7, both making great starts off the line.
 
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Seeley920 said:
Wrong, wrong and wrong

Glen English is far from old and decrepid........
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I thought it might have been Steve Parrish. Last year they interviewed a rider who was too old to run across the track. I knew who it was immediately - somebody very well known.
 
I have a new hobby. It is putting video clips together with an editor, to make concerts. I do it for our local aged care facilities. On Youtube, besides the video clip which is the subject of this topic, there is a video of the pits with the bikes being prepared then going out onto the circuit. I put the two together seamlessly to make one long video. It makes very interesting watching. Probably infringes the copyright laws. However the ends might justify the means.
 
acotrel said:
Probably infringes the copyright laws. However the ends might justify the means.
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Nah, many folks make a living from using clips from other's videos on YT. Just gotta use "non-copywrited music, freely available from many places on line, or no music at all. You should upload to YouTube and throw a link here.
 
I got the copyright test from youtube. But in Australia there is no provision for 'fair usage', so I failed the test. I have not done it again yet. I was watching the vid I put together about half an hour ago. When I first watched it I thought the guys looked a bit quick. After watching it again, I think they were trained by riding guided missiles. A few years ago Bob Rosenthal went there with Bob Minogue. Bob Rosenthal is no slouch, he said they super-quick. He rode an Atlas against the Manxes in the late 60s.
I suggest it is excellent that the Goodwood race actually happens.
I watched those types of bikes race in the 1950s. Arthur Pimm had a1000cc Norton-Vincent which rode in Allpowers A grade against the Manxes. I think he only ever won one race against them. The 250cc Honda Four beat them all, with only one exception - Ron Toombs on the Henderson G50 Matchless beat it once at Phillip Island.
 
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Nah, many folks make a living from using clips from other's videos on YT. Just gotta use "non-copywrited music, freely available from many places on line, or no music at all. You should upload to YouTube and throw a link here.
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Here it is - enjoy -
 
acotrel said:
Here it is - enjoy -
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It says it's a private video. Unless you've uploaded something between you and another consenting, legal age person or persons, you need to tick the box on your video upload screen to allow hosting/sharing on other sites and to be viewable publically....
 
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