Atlantic Blue Colour for 1960 Dominator

Rohan said:

johnm said:

Your a lucky man. Thats a rare bike. I wonder how many 500s were made after 1962. Is it an SS?

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We diverge, but the 500SS was in the catalog until 1965 or 1966 was it ?
So was the Atlas.
So was the 650SS - and then along came the Mercury.

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Yes I think you are correct. But I'm not sure now many 500s were made. I have certainly not seen that many.

johnm said:

Yes I think you are correct. But I'm not sure now many 500s were made. I have certainly not seen that many.

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Yes, anything but the Atlas is said to be quite rare.
Since they were all very similar in price, and performance was the object, Atlas's sold well !!
You do see a smattering of them if you watch long enough though.

texasSlick said:

Here is another Atlantic Blue crossover I found:
Mercury Atlantic Blue Chrysler Carib. Blue G124435

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Found - where ?

it was noted early in this thread that the Mercury was a different (darker) blue color to the poly blue used on dommies,
and a different blue again to the blue used on the Deluxe enclosure models...

Rohan said:

texasSlick said:

Here is another Atlantic Blue crossover I found:
Mercury Atlantic Blue Chrysler Carib. Blue G124435

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Found - where ?

it was noted early in this thread that the Mercury was a different (darker) blue color to the poly blue used on dommies,
and a different blue again to the blue used on the Deluxe enclosure models...

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Here is the link to the page.....does not yield any more information than what I first posted. At least having a name to a possible crossover is a start to research a paint chip.

http://nortoncommando.tradesman4u.com.au/techo.htm

That is more to go on than my search for the red used on Atlas tanks.

Isn't that copied straight off the NOC Colours webpage.
A more authoritive source.... ?

Rohan said:

Isn't that copied straight off the NOC Colours webpage.
A more authoritive source.... ?

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Well, after searching the NOC website, it apparently IS copied off the NOC page, which is, as you say, a more authoritative source.

I did not have the NOC information prior to your post, and thought I would help out Laurentdom with the paint code, using the information I had. If you knew of the NOC webpage, and the paint code prior to my post, why did you not offer it sooner?

Perhaps the code is not the one Laurentdom is looking for, but having a name and a code is a good start in a paint match search. Any possibility would be welcome. You should have directed Laurentdom to NOC sooner, and saved he, me, and you a lot of time.

I just searched on the paint names and codes there - took me to that NOC page in about 10 seconds flat....

Whether they are any more accurate or authorative though is anyones guess.
I had a blue car, its paint name stayed the same, but the shade varied over the years !
And paint names don't always carry well over borders, and with different manufacturers...

Rohan said:

The usual plan here is to find a bit of dommie in the correct shade, and get it matched.
Including borrowing bits off other owners.
And make it known to the paint mixer its not yours, on the pain of death if it gets damaged.
The inside of your toolbox etc has got nothing ... ?

This 1960 Deluxe seems about right ??

We on the right track here ?

I have a Mercury inner primary cover, and I'd have said it was quite a different blue to those Deluxes of the early 1960s.

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Re - 'seems about right' - not a good example with modified Jubilee side panels. Clever, but certainly not 'right'

Colour wise, though ?

P.S. Beats me how the NOC can advise one code can cover 3 different colours ?

I am finally getting around to putting my 1960 Dominator 99 Deluxe together and want to know what the right color is for the Atlantic Blue/ Dove Grey.
After reading this tread it sounds like the Blue on the Deluxe is different from a standard 99.

Has anyone in the US found a suitable color code for the Atlantic Blue 99 Deluxe? I went on RS Motorbike website and put in 1960 Dominator 99 De Lux and they do not list Atlantic Blue. They only show British Racing Green as an option.

I then put in 1960 Dominator 88 De Lux . Here is shows two different colors - Post Office Red/ Dove Grey and Atlantic Blue/ Dove Grey.

So now I am wondering if I have a 1960 Dominator 88 De Lux.

Anyone have access to the register to let me know the model of my Domi?
Frame Number R14D90417 which indicates late 1959 production (1960 Model) and the engine number 14P84196 which I have read the 14 stands for 99 Dominator.

Also looking for a acceptable color code for Dove Grey.

Thank you, Paul

I have owned two DL Nortons , the first in the early 1960's a red /dove 88 and currently a 99 in the same colours. In the early production you could order your bike in a range of colours so a blue/dove 88 and a red/dove or green/dove or black /dove 99 was also possible. That must have created plenty of problems as they rapidly settled on standardised colours and Blue/dove was the norm for a 61/62 99DL , Seats were usually a grey check top ,darker grey sides with white piping . You could also get a blue /dove 650 DL later. I have never seen one in the flesh but I understand that some were made and went abroad ,I doubt there are any survivours. The rarest Norton ever made?. The 60 model was also a bit different in that it had the seat that clipped down, this must have caused a few problems and is currently an MOT failure if they spot it (insecure seat!).The paint used by Nortons was unlikely to be the same maker ( Pinchin?) as that used by AMC on the Mercury. I don't think any DL's were fitted with the later wider forks ,these were introduced about a year after the DL range was dropped .The DL headlamps were painted by Lucas and rapidly bleached to a diferent colour so don't copy that. Most DL's were fitted with the tubular cheroot silencers similar to the Jubilee/Navigator ones. The orriginal header pipes gave a nice upsweep to the system and had a pretty curve from the head, sadly this is not often seen now. I too have ridden genuine 88SS and they were something special ,if you got a good one.I built a fake 88SS from my heavily crashed first DL and it looked just like the early factory bike. I saw it on sale recently advertised as an 88SS but now remodelled to look like a 64 SS ! English bikes tend to have long interesting historys.My current DL was fitted with full touring kit including factory optional engine enclosure crash bars ,fairing ,panniers etc and was used to transport its photographer owner all around Europes Race tracks . The first name in the log book (title) is Harold Daniel of IOM and GP fame. I rebuilt it from bags of parts when it was wrecked in 1970. I only bought it after seeing my Hero's name on it!.

I emailed Ross Thompson on the this subject last night. He restored a beautiful Domi Deluxe in the blue you are referring to a couple years ago. He didn't have a color code, as suggested earlier he used an original unfaded piece to get the match. You an contact Ross at Ross Thompson Metal finishing, and he'll help you out, his email is rosst@execulink.com . Do a search for Ross Thompson Metal Finishing, I think you'll be impressed with his work.

B

Interbak said:

I emailed Ross Thompson on the this subject last night. He restored a beautiful Domi Deluxe in the blue you are referring to a couple years ago. He didn't have a color code, as suggested earlier he used an original unfaded piece to get the match. You an contact Ross at Ross Thompson Metal finishing, and he'll help you out, his email is rosst@execulink.com . Do a search for Ross Thompson Metal Finishing, I think you'll be impressed with his work.

B

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Thank you, I reached out to Ross and he is going to get the paint code, much appreciated

Paul