Accident Treatment in UK

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Its BS argument that anyone's insurance rates and medical costs are higher d/t those w/o insurance sucking the system down. I'm primary care physician [means I'm licensed to treat anything that comes in or know where to send em next] for 35+ yrs involved with workers comp, personal injury, medicare, veterans and health maintenance organizations - to know Insurance is a for profit industry regulated under gambling laws. At the introduction of the Medicare and HMO models elite global level lobbists and lawyers invited all the 1' care Dr. to lecture on what was to come and how we could help grease the transition. They detailed the history of contract and insurance law and principles - like how during The Great Depression factories did not pay enough for people to take care of normal expenses let alone disabling ones, so instead of paying proper wages in order to settle down the Union up risings fooled people into extra tax on wages to be held in vast accounts that could make beaucoup interest on it while only dribbling out minimums to patient care but rarely ever equaling what a worker actually paid in over time. We were then explained that the big payments would go main to fancy diagnostics and all the money Dr's/hospitals would make on that side rather than spending on most effective care. Wasn't too long after that I dropped out of insurance system though give invoices patients can get applied ot deductibles or reimbursed. The other thing is the insurance tends to drive prices and stuff ordered up and up and up with less and less payback to patients. I used to deal with BS/BC alot and discovered during this change over they refused to cover their own workers because their deal was so bad so they when over seas for their own workers and executive staff. If ya ride ya face all types of distres$. But like gambling ya pays ya money and takes ya chances, though casinos know the house dealer always comes out ahead in the long run.

Where in the hell do you think hospitals get their money to pay staff, buy equipment, medical supplies pay for buildings, etc? They get it from insurance companies. Where in the hell do you think insurance companies get their money from? From people who pay premiums.

Hobbit, you may claim to be a doctor, but I wouldn't let you touch my dog. Frankly, I'm tired of your Arkansas, hillbilly bullshit!
 
Aw Ya just are being nasty mood or are a lawyer but ya don't know all the background to health care funding well enough to go deeper. I'm glad its worked out well for those reporting here so what's the bother? I am a Florida State National only immigrated to Arkansas after Texas. I see the folks struck by Post Office and 'Govt' vehicles and military and industrial injury so if ya think I'm mis leading ya oh well.
 
15,000 posts. I would guess that less than 1,500 are relevant. Don't you have anything else to do or anyone else to talk to?
 
Follow Up,
The accident took place in New Brunswick, After the first day in the hospital, After X-rays, Cat Scan Etc, the hospital presented a bill for $3000+ that had to be paid on the spot with cash or credit card.

They would not accept any U.S. medical insurance even though both parties had top of the line insurance with extra coverage for foreign countries!

The hospital told them as Americans that they were being charged 2X what they would charge Canadians.

They paid the bill and checked them selves out, one with a broken hand and one with 3 fractures in her pelvis.

A person who witnessed the accident took them into her home for several days and arranged a ride to the border when they were ready to travel.

Beware if going to Canada for a ride!
 
You have to have travel insurance when you are traveling out of country and you have to make sure you check the policy to see what it covers. Not sure why NS wouldn't recognize US medical insurance but I expect it didn't cover out of country travel.

Don't assume!

Living on the border I travel to the US regularly and have travel insurance. In Ontario OHIP covers Canadian residents only, the provinces have reciprocating agreements with each other. Foreign visitors have to pay, you'll get treated and a bill. The same thing happens in New York State. I have friends who have been hospitalized for a day in NFNY with relatively minor injuries after fender benders and have ended up with a $20,00 bill. That's a big hit if you are not insured. I have family coverage for $125/year, good in most countries. Read the fine print, there are activities and situations not covered; scuba diving, parachuting, paragliding, acts of war etc. Check to see if motorcycling is an exception.
 
Why would a Canadian be charged half of what a U.S.citizen is charged for medical care, in this case $1,500? Canadians are covered by national health insurance. They pay little or nothing for medical services.

I checked with my health care insurance company. I do, indeed, have coverage outside the U.S. If the foreign provider will not accept my insurance I will be reimbursed for any medical expenses incurred. Even so, if I were to spend any extended time in another country I would definitely look into a travel policy that the country I'm visiting will accept.

I could well imagine a scenario whereby a U.S.citizen runs up a large medical bill in certain countries would not be able to leave until that bill is paid.

45 years ago I was hospitalized in Freeport, Grand Bahama Island while visiting there. Never was there any mention of a bill. Excellent care, too.
 
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