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On my mk3, I go on long trips with camping gear - it starts on the button, doesn't leak oil and with a gel seat is reasonably comfortable. The secret to a happy relationship with old bikes is preemptive maintenance and I find mine has been very reliable except for electronic ignitions breaking down. Taking part in VMCC runs means accompanying older machines and the 850 is ideal for this as it is more at home with lower revs/speed. The 961 just wants to go and makes a great effort to keep up with modern bikes, especially in overtaking with 80bhp available. It's more at home on motorways so I take it if I need to get to an event quickly rather than a leisurely trip where time is not critical. With my advancing years, the mk3 has the edge but I currently cover (and enjoy) quite a large spectrum of motorcycling.

[QUOTE="regental, post: 313316, member: 1795"] On my mk3, I go on long trips with camping gear - it starts on the button, doesn't leak oil and with a gel seat is reasonably comfortable. The secret to a happy relationship with old bikes is preemptive maintenance and I find mine has been very reliable except for electronic ignitions breaking down. Taking part in VMCC runs means accompanying older machines and the 850 is ideal for this as it is more at home with lower revs/speed. The 961 just wants to go and makes a great effort to keep up with modern bikes, especially in overtaking with 80bhp available. It's more at home on motorways so I take it if I need to get to an event quickly rather than a leisurely trip where time is not critical. With my advancing years, the mk3 has the edge but I currently cover (and enjoy) quite a large spectrum of motorcycling. [/QUOTE]