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The very best engineering point is the positive lock side kick prop jiffy stand. Not many bikes can do the upright Curly shuffle....

 
Very realistic flame paint job!
On a serious note I feel sorry for anybody that happens to. When I was young and dumb my buddys Atlas Norton burned up from the carbs dripping on the magneto. Not a pretty sight to see.
 
MikeG said:
Very realistic flame paint job!
On a serious note I feel sorry for anybody that happens to. When I was young and dumb my buddys Atlas Norton burned up from the carbs dripping on the magneto. Not a pretty sight to see.
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Hobot taught me this:

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Element Fire Extinguisher - RevZilla

Fire extinguishers have not changed much in the past 100 years. A large, heavy cylinder of compressed gas filled with a messy powder is an antiquated …
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Element fire extinguisher, Interesting

DESCRIPTION OF OPERATION
Element is a manual, portable aerosol fire extinguisher. It uses a Potassium powder jet (a unique method among fire extinguishers) that employs the vaporization of the powder in the environment followed by the condensation of its extinguishing substance. Element works by interrupting a fire’s chain of reaction (the “auto-catalyst” of the fire).
Element is composed of stable, solid minerals; it does not contain gas and is not pressurized. The aerosol-like jet is only produced when the charger is struck with its base. The produced aerosol jet is free of thrust and is essentially an inert salt that emits gas already present in the atmosphere.
This process allows Element to extinguish all types of fires through saturation, while its slow bio-degradation in the environment, furthers the prevention of subsequent fires.
The extinguishing process involves two different reactions: one is physical and the other, chemical.
The physical reaction relates to potassium’s tendency to oxidize rapidly in air. When in contact with air, alkaline salts consume great quantities of oxygen, thus depriving fires of oxygen.
The chemical reaction is created through the stable link between potassium particles and the fire’s combustion particles.
Through the two reactions, a quick oxidation process takes place, immediately transforming the jet from a solid state into a gaseous state freeing the potassium particles. These atoms are able to intercept and interrupt any other free particles produced by the fire’s natural chain reaction combustion process.
Potassium has strong inhibitor qualities due to its weak ionization energies. The extinguishing agent being used is composed of Potassium Nitrate, organic oxidizer, and plasticizer resin.
When Potassium Nitrate (KNO3) discharges from the extinguisher it vaporizes in the environment followed by the condensation of its extinguishing substance. When it reacts (inside the body of the extinguisher) it breaks down and the aerosol that is formed is made up primarily of free radicals of Potassium K+, of Nitrogen N (an inert gas), and water vapor.


The aerosol that comes out of the unit reacts with the fire. Potassium radicals (K+) capture the Oxygen of the combustion thereby extinguishing it.
At the end of the extinguishing process the following is discharged to the atmosphere:
As a solid: particles of Potassium (that have reacted with the Oxygen of the fire) having a size between 3-4 microns. These particles are invisible at sight and heavier than air. They disperse in the atmosphere and tend to deposit on the ground in no appreciable amounts.
As a gas: As Nitrogen; an inert gas already present in the air we breathe at more or less 78%.
As water vapor (and lastly) extremely minimal toxic by-products that are a result of the combustion process.
The chemical reaction is best illustrated by the following image:
Stage 1: Fire is initiated by the flame chain carriers: O, H and OH
Stage 2: The Element aerosol introduces Potassium radicals (K) into the flame chain
reaction
Stage 3: K radicals attach themselves to O, H and OH and remove them from the flame reaction without depleting surrounding Oxygen.
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MikeG said:
How is it held on then?
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Sits on the tank rubbers and is a snug fit on the top frame rails for Featherbed frame, in 40 years like this has never lifted off even with low fuel in the tank, in my great fire of 83 I was able to pull the tank off and saved the Norton, paint on the tank, speedo,seat and wiring was all that was damaged as well the Boyar black box it failed a week later 100 mile from home.
 
ashman said:
Now you know why my Norton fuel tank isn't bolted or strapped down.
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That would certainly help in the event of a static fire.

The downside is, in the event of an accident, your tank is more likely to become a napalm bomb…
 
Well it's been down the road a few times in the 40 odd years and so far still survived, it's like anything it's the roll of the dice in how things pan out.
 
Fast Eddie said:
That would certainly help in the event of a static fire.

The downside is, in the event of an accident, your tank is more likely to become a napalm bomb…
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Don't want to be the 'miserable old git' here, Ash, but do wonder at the insurance implications, especially if a third party were involved??
 
I am actually intrigued, and impressed. I have been figuring how to make some rubber hold downs light enough to snap if I grabbed the tank and YANKED in the event of a carburetor campfire...... take this very prepared Idea to another level. (I ride off road sometimes. I know, I know. Peer pressure. The madmen I ride with. I blame them. )
 
I always carry a fire extinguisher in my vehicles. Used it just last week when my sweet baby set fire to the nachos in the broiler.

And in another thread, I was bragging how good a cook she is!

Slick
 
Its easy for people to say about my tank not being bolted down but if you ever had a major bike fire and being on the bike when it happened then you would understand, if I wasn't able to get the tank off (once the fuel lines melted) I would have lost my Norton that day, lession learned from experience and my own mistake, but that was 40 years ago and the Norton is still going with a unbolted tank.
 
EstuaryBoy said:
Don't want to be the 'miserable old git' here, Ash, but do wonder at the insurance implications, especially if a third party were involved??
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The seat has to be removed for the tank to be lifted off the frame rails and the tank won't lift up far from the head stock and as I have said I have been down hard a few times with the tank the way it is and hasn't flown off yet.
But I don't plan on coming off its the idiots in cars in front of me to worry about.
 
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