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Triumph Bobber / Speed Twin.

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by Voodooo, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. Voodooo

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    Does anyone here have an opinion on the Triumph bobber TFC and speed twin?
    Which would you choose and do you like either?
    Any experience riding either?
    Thanks.
     
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  2. Fast Eddie

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    I’ve not ridden either Scott, so can’t give any proper feedback.

    However, the Bobber does have a certain appeal in my eyes. And the press says it rides very well. But, if I were looking for something of that genre I’d be looking at these boys (although they’re more $ than the Triumph): http://www.zero-eng.com/

    The Speed Twin gets rave reviews. Lighter than a Thruxton but same power. And the Thruxton doesn’t hand about!
    The styling just doesn’t cut it for me though, and I’m still a little hung up on a bike marketed as British that’s made in Thailand. But they’re both only personal opinions rather than anything objective.

    I thought you’d be ordering a Duc Streetfighter anyway...?
     
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  3. Eljahara

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    Scott,
    I have a speed twin - incredible torque in any gear, really fast when you want it to be, comfortable, easy to turn - with the straight bars. I have put on about 1200 miles since I got it in June and it gets better with every ride. The Brembos are not top of the range but more than enough for the road - and the ABS works well! I added a flycreen (wind deflector) from a Thruxton and this has helped at 70+, the rear shocks are basic and were a bit jarring over the smallest bumps - changed for Ohlins and much better now. The only other thing I will change - when the time comes - is the tyres - the Pirellis are not as confidence inspiring as Michelin Pilot Road I had on my Sprint - it is probably a "mental" issue as most of the reviews say the Diablo Rosso 3 add to the handling - each to their own ;)
    John

    Not mine - but the same flyscreen added
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  4. Eljahara

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    mine new

    Black intake covers, black engine case bolts plus 1/2 cosmetic changes prior to shock upgrades and flyscreen

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  5. worntorn

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    The Speed Twin is ideal if you need a two up bike. I like the styling but find the Thruxton more appealing.
    If purchasing today just for solo use, I would still go for the Thruxton R.
    With the Thruxton R you get the better suspension and brakes. The main weight difference between the Speedtwin and Thruxton is in the wheels. The Thruxton R factory spoked alloy rims are about the nicest looking rims I've seen on a production bike, so I'll pay the weight price. The weight difference can be cut down quite a bit with the Outex tubeless kit.
    The other reason to think about the Thruxton is the fairing. Its almost worth having the bike just so you can hang that fairing on it. The original 60s Thruxton had a nice fairing but the one designed for the Thruxton 1200 is exquisite. Whoever designed it really nailed it, every curve is as it should be and the fit to fuel tank is perfect.
    It's also good to tuck in behind when up against strong headwinds.

    I don't care for the Bobber styling.

    There you go, some strong opinions based on my personal bias ( and 20,000 kms riding a Thrux R).

    Glen
     
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  6. Voodooo

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    I can’t decide on what I want.
    I like the Ducati Streetfighter, but do I really need 208hp?
    In my area, the roads are flat and straight.
     
  7. Voodooo

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    The Thruxton RS would be the version I’d get if I were wanting a Thruxton. More hp. Less weight. Better components. But I already have a Commando SF and a Dominator Naked. I realize the 961 doesn’t have the power of the Thruxton, But I kinda want a two up bike, even though some of what I like are not 2 up and the few that I like that are 2 up wouldn’t be comfortable for a passenger.
    My mind is scattering all over.......
    Speed Twin
    Bobber TFC
    Ducati Streetfighter
    Ducati Monster 1200
    MV Agusta Superveloce 800
    MV Agusta Brutale 1000
    Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4 Factory
     
  8. trident sam

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    Don't know about you but I reckon Triumph would sell a rake more Thruxton r if they replaced that ugly tank with
    something prettier, it's not as though they can't !
    just my opinion
     
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  9. Fast Eddie

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    No you don’t !

    No-one does !

    Hence, what you need, is a 1200 Monster S or R...

    Save the money of an R, buy an S, spend the money saved on BST carbon wheels.

    Sorted !

    However, if you live in an area of straight roads, you really should check out Zero Engineering... jus’ sayin’... I really like them, but I could never buy one because A) they’d be crap around town B) they’d be crap around bendy country roads and C) my mates would make my life hell...!
     
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  10. BritTwit

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    Speed Twin:
    Some say it looks like a UJM because of its angle of attack forward lean. Poppycock! Way cool modern classic. Seat looks cool but sucks, needs a replacement like the T120’s at least for a 6’2” rider. Mag wheels – tubeless lighter stronger than laced up wheels. Lotta torque 1200 motor, lotta fun.

    I may have one in the spring if I have the finances, and a Monster 1200 doesn’t get the cash first. Prettier than a Monster, but you can't ignore 150 ponies.


    Bobber:
    It’s all about old time style, and profiling down the boulevard for the public.
    Classic (with a vintage twist) Cruiser Cool.

    I thought that was our job.:D
     
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  11. MxMartin

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    Bobber? Speed Twin? Thruxton? I've just seen the 2020 Rocket 3 and omg not enough kidneys left to sell :)
     
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  12. italia

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    Eddie, you're trying to convince someone with a 500+HP Shelby Mustang that he doesn't need a 200+HP bike? :D

    Scott, you have parallel twin bikes. Try a 4-cylinder bike. Power delivery is so different. If I had a choice of your list, it would be the Brutale 1000RR. I had a MV F4-312R for five years. With exhaust and Race ECU it was doing about 190HP at the crank. When those throttle bodies open up, it makes a howling sound that is so intoxicating.

    But yeah, Eddie's right, that kind of power on the street is nearly unusable. Nearly.

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  13. Fast Eddie

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    You mean this one Mark? Caught my eye too!

    That was until I saw the specs... 291kg dry... that’s 640lbs in real money...

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  14. Fast Eddie

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    There’s nothing wrong with 500+HP V8s... I just prefer them from Stuttgart...
     
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  15. Voodooo

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    I originally tried to get the Brutale Oro series 1000 but missed out.
    I do also like the RR.
    Ok. Now I have another question.
    This MV Agusta Brutale 1000RR
    OOOOOORRRRRRR
    THE Ducati Streetfighter????
     
  16. Voodooo

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    I also drooled over the Rocket R. Beautiful bike?
    Just to heavy.
    Now you all see my problem lol. To many choices.
     
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  17. italia

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    Obviously I haven't ridden either as they are so new, but I've ridden and earlier 4-cylinder Brutale. Great bike.

    The only concern I would have about the Streetfighter would be how well it handles, as the wheelbase is a bit long compared to other naked super bikes. The first generation Streetfighter got a lot of criticism for slow turn-in and people pointed to its long wheelbase as part of the issue.
     
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  18. Voodooo

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    I just looked up wheel base.

    MV Brutale wheel base 55.71” or 1415mm.
    Rake ?
    Dry weight 410 pounds / 186kg
    Hp 208 @ 13000 rpm
    Tq 116.5nm @ 11000 rpm
    33.27” seat height
    2 up seating?


    Duc SF 58.6” or 1488mm.
    Rake 24.5°
    Dry weight 397 pounds / 180kg
    Hp 208 @ 12750 rpm
    Tq 123nm 11500 rpm
    33.3” seat height
    2 up seating.

    All in all, I don’t know what the hell I want lol.
    My original plan was a two up bike.
    - Something with up right bars.
    - Seating for 2.
    - Comfortable for up to 100 mile rides at a time.
    - I don’t race bikes, but I want something that will pull strong when the desire arises.
    - Something with nice quality race inspired components.
    - Makes me happy when riding.
    - Absolutely no Harley’s.
    - British or Italian
    - Under $30,000 USD
     
  19. Eljahara

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    In another thread we are all baulking at a car engine in a bike frame. This one is just done more tastefully than Imp or Cortina engines, I mean....2.3 litre engine in a bike - OMG mad Max would be jealous.
    Get pumping the iron and add some steroids if you want to hang on!


    Edit: just had a look on the inter web out of interest - actually 2.5 litre engine but sadly all sold out :( :D
     
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  20. comet

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    I haven't ridden my Thruxton R for a while due to wrists hurting too much, just can't lean forward at all these days. I was very tempted by the Speed Twin and found the riding position ok for me. I was also interested in having a dual seat. The Thruxton R is fairly upright but still too much pressure on the wrists. Having weighed up the options I decided it made more sense to keep the Thruxton R and buy the dual seat and grab rail (and rear footrests). In my eyes it actually looks better with the dual seat as I was never entirely happy with the single seat/mudguard look. I now just need to get one of the kits to bring the bars further back.
     
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