Triton on my mind

zefer

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I want to build a triton and was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction,I do not know if there is a list of vendors that can supply the various parts and pieces needed, I do not have access to a fabrication guy or fab tools, I guess I would more or less assemble a triton if I had the right parts. What's the difference between a wideline and slimline frame ? I would love to find a triton project that someone stalled on or just cant finish ... Any help from you guys would be appreciated,anyone know of a complete triton for sale ? What frame is the atlas wide or slimline ? Thanks
Jeff
 
There are not many forums better than this one, and this forum SECTION has lots of good threads dedicated to all the Triton possibilities.

I don't know that there is such a thing as 'the right direction" for a Triton, as the possibilities are endless.

Generally, you want a sound chassis, decent suspension and brakes, and a trusty engine.
 
What's the difference between a wideline and slimline frame ? Are there any vendors that specialize in supplying parts and pieces to assemble a triton,such as engine to frame mounting plates,swing arms etc,is there any literature to use a a reference,anyone have a triton project that they want to sell.... In any condition or state of completion
Jeff
 
zefer said:
What's the difference between a wideline and slimline frame ? Are there any vendors that specialize in supplying parts and pieces to assemble a triton,such as engine to frame mounting plates,swing arms etc,is there any literature to use a a reference,anyone have a triton project that they want to sell.... In any condition or state of completion
Jeff

Google some of the following and much will be revealed:

Dresda
Clubman Racing Norton
Unity Equipe
Dunstall Norton
Burton Bike Bits
The Tank Shop
 
Hey Bernard WTF I always thought the only stupid question was the one that never gets asked..... Real sorry your so far removed from being a new guy and have to be such a arrogant prick that you felt compelled to call my honest question stupid,go Fk yourself and do me a favor never Reply to one of my stupid questions/posts again and oh yea thanks for making me feel so welcome and a "part of"'this forum

Regards
" stupid question Jeff "
 
I think Bernard was trying to say was to use the search engine up in the left corner. a lot of people come to this forum and ask questions that have been covered a zillion times before. I myself spend a lot of time searching previous posts to get the info I need. its always there.
 
zefer said:
Hey Bernard WTF I always thought the only stupid question was the one that never gets asked..... Real sorry your so far removed from being a new guy and have to be such a arrogant prick that you felt compelled to call my honest question stupid,go Fk yourself and do me a favor never Reply to one of my stupid questions/posts again and oh yea thanks for making me feel so welcome and a "part of"'this forum

Regards
" stupid question Jeff "

Jeff, firstly, I think you owe Bernard an apology old chap...

Bernard wasn't making any such comments against you. Rather, he searched back through previous posts on the subject in order to find a very informative link, in order to answer your question.

The link was of a previous post on this forum, and the title of that post was "Stupid Question: Difference between wideline and slimline" this was not Bernard's comment!

Secondly, and back to the subject of building a good Triton; if you don't have fabrication facilities, you'll have to pay handsomely for proffesional help. There are many out there who will happilly build a top quality end product for / with you, but do remember that high quality parts are expensive, even building one for yourself would cost a considerable amount, adding many hours of a proffesionals time into the equation will probably add another 50% to the end bill.

Trying to build a really good Triton without using any fabrication work (just bolting new stuff on) rarely results in a good build IMHO.

I can personally vouch for Dave Degans of Dresda fame. Few (no?) people anywhere have more first hand experience of building, riding, racing, Tritons than Dave. A good starting point IMHO would be to buy a frame and swinging arm from Dave. He will be able to pre-modify it for the required petrol tank, oil tank and seat, which you could also buy from him. If you tell him what engine you wish to use, he will also happily supply top quality engine plates. He will then be able to ship you a really nice 'kit' that will be a solid foundation for a very high quality build, that you could assemble and add your own forks, wheels, powertrain, etc to in your own time. Of course he will happilly build you a complete bike, however you would be well advised to discuss build time and budget with him up front to avoid surprises.
 
Fast Eddie said:
zefer said:
Hey Bernard WTF I always thought the only stupid question was the one that never gets asked..... Real sorry your so far removed from being a new guy and have to be such a arrogant prick that you felt compelled to call my honest question stupid,go Fk yourself and do me a favor never Reply to one of my stupid questions/posts again and oh yea thanks for making me feel so welcome and a "part of"'this forum

Regards
" stupid question Jeff "

Jeff, firstly, I think you owe Bernard an apology old chap...

Bernard wasn't making any such comments against you. Rather, he searched back through previous posts on the subject in order to find a very informative link, in order to answer your question.

The link was of a previous post on this forum, and the title of that post was "Stupid Question: Difference between wideline and slimline" this was not Bernard's comment!.

Thanks for correcting this person for me, so sorry you have misinterpreted this the wrong way, that was all I did look up the past posts to give you a guide :( :shock:
Otherwise I hoped this helped :!: :)
With a title like this and written by someone who calls themselves “M1Lover”-you couldn’t make this up :!: :shock:
 
Ok Bernard please accept my apology it was a misunderstanding ... My bad... I really didn't think this forum
Had members who'd call anyone's question stupid... So right is right and wrong is wrong... I was wrong and do sincerely apologize I hope you'll
Accept it and chalk it up to.... Whatever... Sorry
Jeff
 
Hey Eddie
First off I did make a public apology.... It was warranted,second thank you for taking the time to respond I think the suggestion to work with Dave is s solid starting point,third in the guy who and raises ridgebacks matter of fact my CNW bike has ridgbak the license tag ( only 6 characters allowed ) anyway thanks to all who helped and sorry to have over reacted and acted like a A hole
Jeff
 
One has to ask oneself , WHY . ?

Korrekt . a existing olde dunger for rebuild would let you accumeulate appropriate skills ,
if youve not got two left hands and prefer Hondas .

A occasional ' Period ' Triton comes upo on Ebay U.K.
ussually requireing a full overhaull & refinishing .

Therefore Again , WHY do you wish to get involved /
a finished one would be got for HALF the outlay ,
though the risk is its done by a incompetant or
womble who knos not one end from the other ,
has poor taste , inadequate engineering nouse
ands wasted half the outlay on inapropriate out of poeriod tripe .

Thus a ' barn find ' type 60s find or olde wideline with knackered
iron engine , for fitting a Pre Unit lump ( itll go in with nowt other than new front mounts )
if its a battered old wreck , would save a fortune on period ' restoration ' to stock .
IF it hasnt hit a wall , car , or gone ovewr a cliff or into the sceneary at some stage .
Twisting the frame & fork legs / Triple Clamps & overstressing the sliders ,
so some day , suddewnly , when you least expect it , you have a uni cycle .

Try TRITON & DRESDA & DUNSTALL here on SEARCH , if that hasnt put you off .

Or you can buy a Airfix kit of a Manx and a Vincent , and buil;d a NORVIN in 1 : 32 Scale .
Itd save a few dollars . look on NORVIN here too . . . .

If youre filthy rich you can buy new Vincent Engines & Manx frames .
though curreent production Norvins to my mind look BLAAUGGHH ish .
 
zefer said:
Ok Bernard please accept my apology it was a misunderstanding ... My bad... I really didn't think this forum
Had members who'd call anyone's question stupid... So right is right and wrong is wrong... I was wrong and do sincerely apologize I hope you'll
Accept it and chalk it up to.... Whatever... Sorry
Jeff

Your apology is accepted, the original question by M1 Lover was rather unfortunately phrased and I didn’t think of the connection my reply when I posted it online- it is so easy to get confused on the internet :!: :shock:
 
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that is how World War One started.
 
Well I did the same when I built my Featherbed in 1980 I was young, only had min. tools and no experance at all building up a bike from scrach, but I had all the bits to do the conversion, but I used my 850 Commando with the Featherbed converstion, there was no internet in them days except for the mate that sold me the Wideline frame, he was building Tritons at the time but I kept with all Norton, the first thing I did was to cut the orginal rear engine plates and sit the motor in the frame and weld extentions to the plates to fit the mounting lugs on the frame then make front engine plates with keeping the engine leaning forward like the Commando, then the head stay, the Featherbed frame came with the fuel tank, oil tank, battery box and tray that sits under the seat, every thing else just fell in place as i went using both Featherbed and Commando parts.
After I done all that I pulled it all apart to rebuild the motor for the Featherbed frame, used the engine mounts that I extended and made new ones from srach to look better, I was lucky as i worked at a trade college and had excess to a oxy profile cutter to make the engine mounts out of 5mm plate steel and everything I used was rebuilt by me without any experance except a workshop manual with a high performace section at the back.
Well that was 35 years ago and the 850 Featherbed is still going strong, it has been rebuilt and modified and improved a few time in them years, but its such a great bike to ride, is so much lighter than a Commando, has a lot of simple work and performace parts to the motor with the crank balanced for the Featherbed frame.
So if its in your head to do a Triton I say go for it and do as much as you can with your own hands as it will be a good learning experance as you go and what better way to get to know your own bike, yes you will make mistakes as you go but working out a fix is all part of the learning cuve, I did mine 35 years ago when things were simple as well cheaper to do as now building a bike from srach is a lot more expensive, but if your got the money and time to do so I recond go for it, it be the best experance that you will ever have with a bike.

Good luck

Ashley
 
Ashman, I don't doubt any of what you said except that I thought a full commando chassis was lighter than a full featherbed chassis?
 
grandpaul said:
Ashman, I don't doubt any of what you said except that I thought a full commando chassis was lighter than a full featherbed chassis?


Of course a Commando frame is lighter, it what I did with all the other stuff I did on the convertion, lighter engine mount, alloy oil tank, wheels, no battery, no isalastics etc etc, it all adds up, I still have the chance to ride Commandos as I have rebuilt a few for friends and the Featherbed feel a lot lighter, more nimble when riding it as well I have lifted my Norton off the work table with just my mate and myself lifting the bike, have used the same mate to lift the last Commando I rebuilt off the same work table and I do know which one was heavier, by the way we had to lift the bikes up while the work table was rolled out from under the bikes, then put down where the work table was.

Ashley
 
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