Triplex alignment?

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Triumph Trident and BSA 750 ...their manuals state how important the triplex must be set up.shimming to a close tolorance...otherwise the chain ,etc as a short life....yet the Norton Commando Haynes manual doe's not mention anything about alignment? any thoughts.
 
john robert bould said:
Triumph Trident and BSA 750 ...their manuals state how important the triplex must be set up.shimming to a close tolorance...otherwise the chain ,etc as a short life....yet the Norton Commando Haynes manual doe's not mention anything about alignment? any thoughts.

I believe the triples had a known machining fault, so the factory knew care was required above and beyond that normally advised for road bikes at the time.
 
I think any chain must be aligned to minimize wear on pins and side plates, the duplex and triplex being more critical in that order. As far as "close" tolerance, I don't know what that would be....seems to me, a straight edge placed along the driver and driven sprockets would be all that is required.

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john robert bould said:
Triumph Trident and BSA 750 ...their manuals state how important the triplex must be set up.shimming to a close tolorance...otherwise the chain ,etc as a short life....yet the Norton Commando Haynes manual doe's not mention anything about alignment? any thoughts.
What do you expect from Haynes?

Workshop manual:
Check section C34-8
 
Thank goodness Norton got this alignment to happen automatically if the cradle and engine and gearbox bearings and mounts are up to snuff and grearbox adjusters set square which is hard not too automatically. Drive chain alignment is the main reason to get rear wheel aligned - which happens automatically when same space on either side of tire and swing arm obtained in shed with fancy device at home or finger feel on side of highway after dark in the cold rain and irritated wife encouraging you to get it done now.
 
Funny just had a triplex snap on me on my mk3 coming back from the International rally in Germany, major mess, not good. Still don't know why. Managed to get the parts and fix it within 48 hours though, result!
 
john robert bould said:
Triumph Trident and BSA 750 ...their manuals state how important the triplex must be set up.shimming to a close tolorance...otherwise the chain ,etc as a short life....yet the Norton Commando Haynes manual doe's not mention anything about alignment? any thoughts.
The parts manual has clutch location shims 060894 &5 at .036" and Edit: .048" for getting the alignment to the front engine sprocket. The front sprocket is fitted to a tapered shaft so it is the fixed. The clutch then needs to be shimmed out to suit.
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Tom
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If you find that several shims are needed to get the clutch and drive sprocket in line, go back and check the taper fit of the drive sprocket and woodruf key on the crankshaft.
A bit of grinding paste on the taper and twist the sprocket to see if you get full engagement.
 
It takes 3 or more difference manuals, factory and Norton clubs and aftermarket plus the Norton Villagers to alert to the oversights and errors. The triplex chains are very tolerant of any possible potential miss-alignments just slapping primary together so real reason for the clutch shims is keeping it from rubbing inner case *after* inner case shimed square to crankcase face, sheeze. Only 3 things I can imagine allowed a new triplex to break, one, its was defective from the maker, two, it was so loose set it climbed to tops of sprocket teeth tension-ing beyond load limits or three, it was set too tight cold so thermal expansion jerked it apart. [checking main shaft straightness would be on my restless mind after triplex chain jerk apart] There are too many reports of very significant clutch wobble cases that did not break the triplex chain even if wearing slack in it faster, so might reconsider ones thoughts on what happened. I and others have used up all the good of triplex chains w/o fracture - just finding extra sloppy or pieces of links that didn't hurt anything - up to that point of bad.
 
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