THE Hinge THE Slap THE WevilWobbles

THE Hinge THE Slap THE WevilWobbles

Just wondering if any of these has bothered anyone to the extent it has done me, in a Commando that has no issues of worn out loose or misaligned anything? IF so how so? Have ya also experienced it on non-Commando cycles, by which I mean non-isolastic chassis like a Seeley or Ducati or Harley? Wobble is stem forward faster oscillation, Weave is stem rearward slower oscillation. Tank slap is mostly wobble while THE HInge is mostly weave. They of course feed on each other. Mostly curious about what others find limits cornering glee - lost of control, traction &/or fouling? We all know that worn or loose or misalinged components can induce upsets sooner-worser, and I'm interested in feedback on that too, if the component and the mis-behavior can be identified and linked till corrected, then what next bothered one's bravery to risk life and limb on joy rides.
Poor tires are one of the best ways to enter THE Hinge I know of, but how about with good rubber fitted? This is about irresponsible, immature, risky, illegal kix seeking and getting away with it. No logic can condone pressing it to upsets so this ain't about that.

Those with steering dampers, why the install, what was the result and level of dampening range that was set?

Road resurfacing that comes up on your motorbike but fast and unannounced by our hwys. dept. Terrifying weaving with cars honking should you attempt moving to the right slower lane out of self preservation. Note: The better or newer the tires the worse it all is .

Ugh - you mean new as is still asphalt crumble layer. Ugh. Too common here so just can't take any blinds anymore that get me caught in traffic traps. Have to be pre-set for it as you say The Game is on before you are. Here the steep turns spill fuel to gravel and hay straw at apexes and the water and heavy trucks make the road lumpy just where you'd like to be staying on smooth acceleration but would launch ya into THE Hinge if ya did. Off to risk less than THE H THE S THE WW.

Giant machines work at night to eat up the older pavement with rows of scraper teeth that leave weaving grooves in the pavement. A week or so later another crew comes to work with giant steaming monsters laying down fresh pavement on top of this squirrly roughened surface. Terrifying with no temporary illuminated roadwarning sign to warn you of impending horrors ahead. A letter to the Minister of Transportation was answered in essay style saying they do their best to warn motorcyclists as need be. Whiter hair.

Ugh Torontonian I really didn't want to go down the paths you describe in this post but yes its really the crux of how I learned most the handling quirks of various motorcycles. Forced on me w/o doing any wrong but butt in saddle. The most common blind hazard involving the road machine distortion it when the road grader comes out and picks just below a crest or around blind to stop his mid lane over spill berm 1 to 2 ft tall full of big rock and roots and every other surface is a few inches deep totally unstable loose fluffed and fresh cracked stones. I've a couple of reflexes that hurt me instantly now, one is Red HOT metal bar in R palm if i grab brake and the other is fish hooked rod up my rectum is I ain't pulling down and set up for a crash on each crest and bind. Once in a great while I meet oncoming at these places so get run off grade into the drainage gulley/ditch, also with debris in it. I've had THE HInge hit with such whip lash getting bezerk to get out of the ditch it torn out the a shock mount on the leading edge of the last slide/grip-hi side leap - that then made the rest of the ride rather Hinge prone on just normal legal style comutte. I can not really control THE Hnge don't think anyone can but if you are in the right gear to get power band response enough to lift the front out of traction then might recovery when nothing to lose but crash if ya don't. THE Hinge onsets to some degree every trip on THE Gravel freeway sections, going into nice easy sweeper rather sedately gravel can get deep enough the tire cnflict kicks in and the teeth grit to back off or blast though it game in on. My habit to keep reserves so any let off settles in out while staying out of oncoming or going wide into stuff.

Today I found a curve on new tarmac banked nice and tightening up but mild-ish radius marked 50 mph so entered slow-ish 60's to get on WOT far over and felt the rear scrub outward a couple inches softly w/o hint of THE Hinge or The Slap. Did not foul the side stand doing it but can foul side stand with rear sets doing zig zags in my lane.

One key things on this subject is any bike can take an instant of hi spiked loads but not sustained hi loads. I can lean and press THE Gravel, YIKES, but I can kind of jerk forks and power twitch bike on its vertical axis staying mostly upright and stay on some power accelerating because bike is now pointing where ya want to go - for next handfu of yd then do it again in series as needed to facet the turn. On hwy I can enter rather faster and get around w/o THE Hinge if I sharply dive into a turn I enter slow enough to stay of good power all the way through. IN a current handling upset post the stories centered around doing fine till let off of power. On THE Grit this translates into spining up and sort of getting the crash over early then spending the rest of the turn trying to recover the excess speed and willy wobble fork jerking. But I'm letting off on loads so can get away with it.

' We ' had one of these once ,



But with 13 in wheels , lowered 6 in , HA Viva front suspension , discs , Comaro shocks , DB tractor brass radiator , and Ground Effects . :lol: 8)
Would pull onto the bumpstops at 80 , ( rear under wing ) . AND everone knew it could only do 45 mph as it had done 250.000 miles out that way . :lol:

Moveing once , loaded , at night , on the highway . SOME IDIOT had dug it up , with about a 9 in drop into and outoff it . :shock:
Had the cat in the wagon , being not Time Fixed in conciousness , the twice it whined that night , Being half asleep I hit the brakes .
So I only bounced through it at 45 - 50 mph , about at the limits of disintegration . Had ' Exocette ' writen on the back after I'd tried 90 mph once .



VIBRATION . Vibration ! . I'll tell you about vibration . These bikes dont VIBRATE , they merely shake a bit , In Comparison . :lol:

Hehe my ole '78 Chevy 3/4 ton van could take on motorcycles in turns and out drag a good tuned Combat, especially after Combat's first gear used up about 60 mph, with passenger and some cargo to boot! Did lots of stuff that don't show suspension to engine and interior and have drifted it sideways at 90 in freeway grass ditch mediums. It would tend to lift for take off about 120 mph though. I don't hear much about cycle riders taking on hot rod cages, especially in the tights, and for good reason, rubber and solid mount cycles can't take much corner loads and so must brake for turns and they can't brake much either compared to hot rod cages. One of the fastest/best ways to discover the downside of your cycle is teasing with a good cage and driver. Only Ms Peel allowed me to tease with blonds in hot rods in the Ozarks, very similar to The Tunnel of Love fantasy film but I had the sounds of the echos off the bluff faces the film left out on the tunnel run. I didn't get laid by em though. I called my van Ole Blue but everyone else called it the Millium Falcon. I absolutely could not apply Ole Blue's full thrust of power or brakes below 50-60 or I'd roll the tires off the rims, usually two at once so a real bother to get aired back up with only one spare on the back. If ever van and Peel get going again both will have 360' tire to rim clamps. Of course you'all have many posts about such harsh road loads tire to rim adhesion limits ya ...



Both of my favorite gals this last decade got taken out by stuck throttles that over rev'd out of control. Rev limiter are a big deal to me now a days - another worry I don't hear much about.