Stupid boy

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

You know how it is, an innocent conversation ends up with you buying more stuff that’ll sit on a shelf in the shed...

Well, at least I’m prepared for the day when my injection system frustrates me to the point of ripping it all off...

Britfan60 · Mar 2, 2018

Wow. You're gung ho. Mikunis?

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

Keihin 39mm FCR flatslides. As fitted by Kenny Dreer.

RVR961 · Mar 2, 2018

I'm surprised the administrator allowed this sort of pornography on the site....
Lovely pair of bellmouths Mrs!!!

Britfan60 · Mar 2, 2018

This is the first bike I've owned with an ECU. How will that affect it?

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

Britfan60 said:
This is the first bike I've owned with an ECU. How will that affect it?

I don’t know! I rather suspect it would need removing and replacing with something like a carb Hinckley Bonnie system.

Fitting them would be a big job. I don’t actually have any plans to do so, but they came up for sale, so I thought I’d have ‘em.

They are the actual carbs fitted by Kenny, I bought them from him, so they should even be jetted to go!

The title of the thread is ‘stupid boy’ after all...!

richard-7 · Mar 2, 2018

Damn those are sweet. My dads building an Atlas with a 961 motor and would love those.

trident sam · Mar 2, 2018

Nigel, what did Kenny Dreer use as an ignition system on his bikes, was it designed by him or an off the shelf ?
sam

contours · Mar 2, 2018

Fast Eddie said:
You know how it is, an innocent conversation ends up with you buying more stuff that’ll sit on a shelf in the shed...

Well, at least I’m prepared for the day when my injection system frustrates me to the point of ripping it all off...

So glad I'm not the only one who does that!

BritTwit · Mar 2, 2018

Fast Eddie said:
You know how it is, an innocent conversation ends up with you buying more stuff that’ll sit on a shelf in the shed...

Well, at least I’m prepared for the day when my injection system frustrates me to the point of ripping it all off...

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I think they can be stored away until the next "Low Price 961" appears on eBay or Craigslist.
If you can get the 961 on the cheap, you can turn into a faithful Dreer 961 Replica - with carbs.

BritTwit · Mar 2, 2018

trident sam said:
Nigel, what did Kenny Dreer use as an ignition system on his bikes, was it designed by him or an off the shelf ?
sam

If you ever see a photo of the original Dreer 961, you’ll notice that the timing cover has a “points” cover like classic Nortons.
The new 961’s don’t have one.
Kenny probably used an electronic ignition setup like the ones available for old Nortons today, with magnetic or optically triggers.

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

richard-7 said:
Damn those are sweet. My dads building an Atlas with a 961 motor and would love those.

You’ve kept that quite haven’t you? Pics and info please....!!

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

trident sam said:
Nigel, what did Kenny Dreer use as an ignition system on his bikes, was it designed by him or an off the shelf ?
sam

Dunno Sam. Will get back to you on that one mate...

richard-7 · Mar 2, 2018

When I have time I’ll take a look and see if I can help. I have all the original cad files and test data. But there were so many variants its a mess to make sense of what’s what.

Fast Eddie said:
You know how it is, an innocent conversation ends up with you buying more stuff that’ll sit on a shelf in the shed...

Well, at least I’m prepared for the day when my injection system frustrates me to the point of ripping it all off...

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My dads request. Any part numbers and close ups please.

You can email me if you prefer.

Thanks in advance.

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

richard-7 said:
When I have time I’ll take a look and see if I can help. I have all the original cad files and test data. But there were so many variants its a mess to make sense of what’s what.

My dads request. Any part numbers and close ups please.

You can email me if you prefer.

Thanks in advance.

Pm sent.

Fast Eddie · Mar 2, 2018

Regarding ign.

Kenny started out with a Boyer! As BritTwit pointed out, the initial ign pick up was on the cam. Later he worked with Power Arc.

In the later 961 stages, he went to a crank triggered system, on the LHS, where it still is.

Sadly, not ‘off the shelf’ stuff available.

Maybe it’s not such a daft idea to speak to Steve at Tri-Spark...

trident sam · Mar 3, 2018

Thanks for the info Nigel, agree about Steve Kelly, he is probably sorting an ignition now !
sam

MxMartin · Mar 3, 2018

saw this on FB...

BritTwit · Mar 3, 2018

Photo warms the hearts of old carb guys like me.
The Red Max Speed Shop is the home of the Swindler 961.

GKRyder · Mar 9, 2018

I know someone who is progressing with a carbed 961.
The new owner of my bike actually.

Taking it slowly as he is also getting his head around the FI as well now with PowerCommander etc so not as desperate.

Anyway...this is the parts list so far
Keihin FCR 39..lots of jetting to be done
CDU pickup from Triumph Scrambler
Different/programmable igniters/coils (dunno maybe he is just hedging bets there)

No immobilisers/tricking ECU so that's good at least

If i learn anything more will post but he is more into fixing the engine bearings right now.

The right guy for my bike. Competent, not stressed and doesn't need to ride often.

Stupid boy

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