Question about "S" High Pipes

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I am contemplating the "S" high pipes (both on left side) and was wondering if the mufflers for them are the same as used for the low pipes. They look similar and I've not seen a specific muffler part number for that application.
Any unique user experiences with that system shared would be appreciated also.
Thanks!
 
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The "S" mufflers have two threaded busses welded to them for the heat shield attachment. Not sure if they are the same length as the low pipe versions. Do you have the header pipes now? You will also need the muffler bracket that attaches to the left top shock mount.
 
The S type mufflers have only one threaded attachment boss on the inside as opposed to two on the low pipe version.
sam
 
Back in 1971 or 1972 I used two S mufflers for a Roadster configuration. IIRC, the S mufflers each had a longitudinal welded seam. Using the threaded bosses, I ended up with the right side muffler with the seam on top.
 
So - that means the threaded boss is in the correct position to adapt to the high pipe mounts?
If a modified bracket is needed that's no problem.
The thought that I won't have to buy another pair of mufflers appeals to me.
 
If the mufflers have a seam then there is a right and left hand muffler for a Roadster. Wheareas, the Scrambler mufflers are both left hand. As for boss placement, I fabbed the brackets, so I can’t say if they’ll match up.
 
"Better ask L.A.B."
I'm sort of new to this - ya gotta help me out there ----
 
The S type silencers are not the same as the Roadster ones. Different part numbers, I probably have the numbers if you want them. As others have said, the mounting boss is on the same side for the S type, I don't know if it's in the same position, I doubt it. The shields are held on with another boss on the outside with a BA round head Allen plus a jubilee clip on the front of the shield. You will need a dogleg bracket and other items to mount the silencers. They are a pain in the butt. You have to keep them tight or they will beat your left side panel to death. The clearance above the chaincase is tight. Supposedly the exhaust path is shorter including the exhaust headers so there are reports of them being faster, but that may be wishful thinking. Andover will probably have everything you need. You will burn your leg on them at some point. But they look cool. You will also need a really good clamp for the exhaust to silencer transition. I use ones called "Moose", they can be tightened until you bend the exhaust.
 
If your bike is an 850 with the larger front guard compared to the 750 front guard you will dint the guard on full compression of the front forks ,well that is what happened for me.
 
S muffler is one piece manufactured, doesnt have the final conical part welded.
First Roadster 1970 (of course with two bosses thread) had the same one pieces.
All 1971 on have the final welded.
Ciao.
Piero
 
When you mount the exhaust system be sure there is no tension in it. Do not tighten the muffler clamps fully, allow for some movement.
I used sturdier rubbers from an Austin mini for fixing the silencers the dogleg mount. I already needed two left side pipes because of breaking.
 
This link might be useful:

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-drawing/453/-s-type-exhaust

I have never run this system but looked into the idea a while ago. My conclusion was that there are a lot of poorly fitting pattern parts out there, so establishing that what you have is actually a good fit is paramount, otherwise you'll be chasing your tail.

Any parts you buy need to be from a trusted supplier (perhaps like in the link above).

To answer your point above, LAB is our resident expert for details / parts numbers / model types and dates / etc !
 
Yes, as mentioned if you have a 71 or newer front mudguard, it will foul in the S exhaust pipes under hard braking. That could mean some exciting times if you can't steer.
 
Thank you so much for the information -
I am a ways from needing these pipes, the winter ahead will be filled with "How shall I dress my dolly?" (That's how my wife sees it).
 
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