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Bullshit. Listen to the clip at 0:44 seconds "Is there a way we can do something like that, by injection..." - he is suggesting/recommending that "medical doctors" investigate that. Injecting fucking disinfectant. Come on.
I‘m neutral on Trump, so please allow an impartial observation...

In my completely non expert opinion, injecting disinfectant sounds like a pretty unlikely treatment!

But, he did not say bleach.

And, he did not tell people to inject themselves.

As you point out, he is talking to the doctors to his right about various possible studies into new treatments including “light treatment“ and “is there a way we can do something like that”... “by injection inside or almost a cleaning” referring to how disinfectant kills the virus. He quite clearly says “it’ll be interesting to check that” and “you‘re gonna have to use medical doctors for that, right”.

Irrespective of how wild or basically unsound his theories might be, that video, whilst sounding crazy to some, is not evidence that Trump told people to inject themselves with anything, and certainly not with bleach.
 
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What an absurd conversation.

I believe by the president's own admission he was only asking a "sarcastic" question.

Bleach, specifically Clorox only came up when several of his supporters took his advice and drank it...

Perfect time for sarcastic wise cracking Donald! So funny!
 

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Are you listening Trump? - You ain't seen nothing yet!

If the leader of your country, any country told you to jump off a cliff, would you, I think not (but there are some people who would)

Here are some facts.
The majority of leaders in the western world were voted in, that's democracy.

The Covid-19 infected people lying in ICU's around the world probably have other things on their mind besides politics.

There are people out there who if someone was lying on the road after being run over by a bus, instead of helping them would most likely be waffling on that it must have been a Democrat / Liberal bus. (Choose one to suit your political slant)

No matter the leader everyone had the choice to do the right thing to safeguard themselves from this Virus as has been proven, if you choose not to do that because of political following, maybe that was foolhardy, but it was a self choice.

All those folk who are now unemployed and doing it hard, all the politicians of the world are still drawing a salary plus perks and have done all year.

Politics or blame now or after the fact will not spare you from this virus.

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There was some suggestion the virus can mutate so a vaccine today might not be next week.
 
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I‘m neutral on Trump, so please allow an impartial observation...

In my completely non expert opinion, injecting disinfectant sounds like a pretty unlikely treatment!

But, he did not say bleach.

And, he did not tell people to inject themselves.

He is clearly talking to the doctors to his right about various possible studies into new treatments including “light treatment“ and “is there a way we can do something like that”... “by injection inside or almost a cleaning” referring to how disinfectant kills the virus. He quite clearly says “it’ll be interesting to check that” and “you‘re gonna have to use medical doctors for that, right”.

Irrespective of how wild or basically unsound his theories might be, that video, whilst sounding crazy to some, is not evidence that Trump told people to inject themselves with anything, and certainly not with bleach.
As far as Trump is concerned, he has frequently shown himself up and appears to never look at himself in the mirror when he comes to making political statements re the time he contacted concornivirus and then came out of hospital stating that it was no problem and that he suddenly became a world leading expert because he had a long conversation with the doctors treating him.
Yes, he certainly has a brass neck, but, as my previous statement about not being immune for very long from it , the next time it may become more serious.
 
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When it comes to immunisation of the flu , heres what makes me suspicious of government statistics claiming it's success rate, I got a flu bug and was going for a good walk after to clear my lungs of that phlegm that was in my lungs. Then I had the flu jab.
Whereas a relation in my family had the flu jab, then several weeks later contacts flu, the aftermath she was admitted to hospital with pneumonia.
In my case, you could claim the jab was successful, even through that is misleading, whereas in the other case it was not.
I suspect we are going to get the same misleading results with any coronavirus prevention jab when/if it becomes available.
 
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And if you have tested positive in the USA for Covid 19 and you die of any of those, or suicide, you are counted as a Covid 19 death, by the CDC.
Is that the same in other countries?
Yes, for a time in the UK covid deaths included those that had recovered but died from other causes later on, including being run over by a car. What effect it had on the overall figures is unclear as covid deaths where the patient never had a test were also being missed.
 
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Bullshit. Listen to the clip at 0:44 seconds "Is there a way we can do something like that, by injection..." - he is suggesting/recommending that "medical doctors" investigate that. Injecting fucking disinfectant. Come on.
Wrong,... he is asking a question to whoever is standing next to him off camera about a possible method of combating the Covid19 infection in a persons body.

IS THERE A WAY??? That seems like a question to me, which is neither a suggestion or recommendation, but I suppose if you are desperate to virtue signal your hate for Trump to the world, you make his question into something it was not... I know I'm wasting my breath here, and none of the Trump haters can look in the mirror and see that their derangement says more about themselves than it does Trump.

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You better hope not to get Cancer and be told your best option is chemotherapy, described in its early days as a poison you hope kills the cancer before it kills the patient.
 

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Well you have but a week to go for the current election in the USA. Both sides carry on and it sure is tedious. But the bottom line on all of this is: you have two candidates to vote for. Pick one. Good bad or indifferent you get to pick one of the two on offer.
Nothing else matters. This is all you get to do.
Ill check in next week and see how it went!
 
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Latest onfo from the Imperial college of London is that levels of anti bodies in people wane " quite rapidly " after concornivirus infection . They say that, according to their research, that people who had the virus previously, their immunity appears to be fading and there is a risk of catching the virus multiple times.
Are you listening Trump? - You ain't seen nothing yet!
Did you listen to them?

"The same Imperial College model that warned of 2.2 million U.S. deaths with no interventions also predicted 1.1 to 1.2 million deaths –not 100,000 to 240,000– even with “the most effective mitigation strategy.” The Imperial College recommendations for “most effective mitigation” focused on social distancing for those over 70 and isolation of only those infected and their contacts, rather than banning jobs or closing all restaurants and beaches. An effective strategy would be targeted and localized, consistent with the new federal guidelines for gradually easing restrictions on the least‐risky counties, populations, activities and businesses."
 
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It is not what is commonly known as disinfectant.
No, it is a mixture of drugs, in the case of cancer treatments, the mix are deadly to cells in your body, (poison), that you would not ever take, if you had another option. In cancer treatments they are designed to kill fast growing cells, that would include cancer cells, hair cells, white blood cells and others. How are they given, pills or INJECTION. Imagine having something poisonous injected into your blood veins.
 

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No, it is a mixture of drugs, in the case of cancer treatments, the mix are deadly to cells in your body, (poison), that you would not ever take, if you had another option. In cancer treatments they are designed to kill fast growing cells, that would include cancer cells, hair cells, white blood cells and others. How are they given, pills or INJECTION. Imagine having something poisonous injected into your blood veins.
Are you suggesting we treat COVID with chemo? Because that's dumb.
 
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Ref the report today that immunity after infection is only short.

This does not mean that immunity timespans from a covid 19 vaccine will also be short

The human papilloma virus generates very weak, transient immune responses that offer very minimal protection against reinfection. The vaccines, in contrast, offer a high level of durable protection that lasts for many years, potentially for decades.

So vaccines can provide much longer immunity than having the infection, the converse is also true but then the vaccine fails the trial.
 
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What an absurd conversation.

I believe by the president's own admission he was only asking a "sarcastic" question.

Bleach, specifically Clorox only came up when several of his supporters took his advice and drank it...

Perfect time for sarcastic wise cracking Donald! So funny!
 

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I read that article, and I do see how his words could be taken differently.

I don't think the President suggested people inject bleach, but it sure came out that way!
 

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No matter what either candidate says, those not supporting him will not believe anything positive and worse will spin whatever he says in a negative fashion. Neither side will give an inch. A lot of the virus campaign is based on a shooting in the dark
and that response is being spun by the same two sides.
If I live long enough it will at least be interesting to see what the outcome is. More the outcome of the virus problem than the US election!
 
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