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gortnipper

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Yes, very difficult and sad.

As was the Black Death, Small Pox, Polio, Measles...

We will figure it out and arrive at a new normal.

Eventually.

And then, again. And, again...

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Wife has a cousin in AZ. She fell for that hydroxychloroquine crap early on. She hasn't said anything lately. My wife want to go up to the finger lakes in NY next month to a Border Terrier dog meeting with her new puppy, I'm not real happy about that. She can be pretty clavalier about how she distances herself from people and I constantly have to remind her to wash her hands when she comes home. She hasn't invited me along yet. I'm hoping maybe she decides it's not worth the risk.

Yeah, I hear this morn that the hospitals in AZ and TX are beginning to loose bed space already. So they send people home with oxygen after sitting in the ER for 24 hours. Guess they're going to try 'pool' testing. Why didn't they do this 3 months ago? Ignorance or denial? Same effect.

And I thought the anxiety of old age was enough, now there's all this other crap.
 

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There are two ways to beat this thing: vaccine or herd immunity. To have herd immunity approximately 70% of the population needs to have antibodies (assuming they protect you). There are 330 million people in the US. 70% of 330 million is 231 million. If you figure .5% of the people who get Covid die from it, that means when you have 1,155,000 Covid deaths we will have reached immunity. That's a hard number (deaths are much more certain than testing). I think we are at 120,000 now. So we're making progress.
 

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The past two days have been the worst ever for new infections in the U.S.

Despite what you see and hear, things are only getting worse.
Another spike was generally predicted as being inevitable after the recent large protests. I’m sure we’ll see the same here in the U.K.

Interesting times, the protests here have partially migrated into illegal huge street parties in some cities, DJs, alcohol, drugs, great fun. But no sanitation, no social distancing and plain illegal. But in several recent ones the police have refused to even intervene.

Also, here in the U.K, as soon as the sun comes out we go crazy for the beach. Pictures in the news recently were amazing. Beaches absolutely crammed.

So I now also think some kind of second spike is inevitable. But it ain’t cos of the general lifting of the lockdown, it’s cos of mass stupidity...

And, the f*cking pubs aren’t even open yet... :oops:
 
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There are two ways to beat this thing: vaccine or herd immunity. To have herd immunity approximately 70% of the population needs to have antibodies (assuming they protect you). There are 330 million people in the US. 70% of 330 million is 231 million. If you figure .5% of the people who get Covid die from it, that means when you have 1,155,000 Covid deaths we will have reached immunity. That's a hard number (deaths are much more certain than testing). I think we are at 120,000 now. So we're making progress.
I suspect herd immunity comes through survival of the fittest. If you survive and breed, the next generation is resistant. But elderly people don't usually breed, so the whole survival of the human race depends on the young. Without a vaccine Covid 19 has the potential to do extreme damage - inevitable ?
 

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Nor an apology from the UK or the US for being stoopid as all get out on facilitating mass spreading this.

You think Boris or Trump would fully disclose this had it started on their turf?

I think not.
 

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Another spike was generally predicted as being inevitable after the recent large protests. I’m sure we’ll see the same here in the U.K.

Interesting times, the protests here have partially migrated into illegal huge street parties in some cities, DJs, alcohol, drugs, great fun. But no sanitation, no social distancing and plain illegal. But in several recent ones the police have refused to even intervene.

Also, here in the U.K, as soon as the sun comes out we go crazy for the beach. Pictures in the news recently were amazing. Beaches absolutely crammed.

So I now also think some kind of second spike is inevitable. But it ain’t cos of the general lifting of the lockdown, it’s cos of mass stupidity...

And, the f*cking pubs aren’t even open yet... :oops:
Actually most new cases are occuring in states that decided to reopen as soon as they saw a decrease in cases. Texas, Arizona, Utah, North Carolina.

Here in New York we had mass protests every night for over a week and no spike in cases at all, so you can't blame mask wearing protestors.

It's the places that lifted restrictions early and the people who didn't take this seriously that are getting sick now.

I saw those Bournemouth beach photos, nuts.
 

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Well not many of our protestors wore masks, and even fewer of the illegal ravers or beach goers... doesn’t bode too well for us...
 
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And yet we're about a week away from the tourist industry taking off again... Not knocking per se, but if the beaches are closed, the pubs are shut, parts of London's are under siege and all our historical monuments are: 'Under review'... Why on earth would you want to come here??
 
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