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Dexamethasone anti inflammatory steroid shows decrease risk of death from COVID-19 in patients on ventilators and those requiring supplemental oxygen.

" It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth "

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Lead researcher Prof Martin Landray said the findings suggested one life could be saved for:

  • every eight patients on a ventilator
  • every 20-25 treated with oxygen
"There is a clear, clear benefit," he said.

"The treatment is up to 10 days of dexamethasone and it costs about £5 per patient.

"So essentially it costs £35 to save a life.

"This is a drug that is globally available."

When appropriate, hospital patients should now be given it without delay, Prof Landray said.

But people should not go out and buy it to take at home.

Dexamethasone does not appear to help people with milder symptoms of coronavirus who do not need help with their breathing."

 

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I'm still hunkered down. Feel like my guvment has abandoned me. Wife gets out more than I do, and I keep trying to get her to remember to wash her hands. At least she wears a mask. Around my neighborhood, the young bucks act like nothing has happened. Big parties at the local pub. I wouldn't go near it. I do go to the grocery or lumber yard, but I'm real careful. Wipe down with peroxide when I get in the car. I finally found some 70% isopropyl on line at a decent price if I bought enough other stuff like socks or spray paint to get free shipping. $4 for 2 32oz bottles.
 

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Well Dog, seems like you’re doing the right things if you’re in high risk category, minimise social contact, wear a max when likely to come into contact with others, maintain distance where possible, and lots of hand sanitisation when you have ventured out anywhere.

Keep it up sir. At least you’ve still got the rest of us grumpy old bastards for ‘company’ ...!
 

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I’m in similar boat here ( high risk) , they just said inter-provincial travel okay from 3July , minutes after that get news local Duc Club they say end of July AGM somewhere out of Province , location yet to be determined , I won’t attend as most members from cities ..... glad I like solo rides to familiar destinations ....
 
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I am very much the same as you DogT I took a redundancy from my GOV job of 31 years at the age of 55 and was able to access my supa money and take a fortnight pension, that was 6 years ago but when retired you tend to not go out as much, my wife does all the shopping and I only go out to get hardware supplies, beer and of course riding the bikes, I have enough things to do at home to keep me busy, have my bikes and big workshop up the back, house renos, gardens and veg patches etc, the wife goes out more than myself but I do go away on the bike for weeks at a time just to give each other a break.
So being locked down to me is just a normal day for me and the few mates I go riding with are also retired and still young in mind lol, but we are lucky here in Aussie land as we didn't get hit as hard as the rest of the world, closing our borders sooner than later has made a big differance, our state borders are still closed but VIC and NSW are putting pressure on our state to reopen but those two states are having problems with controlling the virus and getting new cases dayly and most of us Queenslanders are happy for our state borders to remain closed till the rest of the states have control, the people down south just want to come up here to get away from their cold winter to enjoy our warm winter and good weather.
But we are being rewarded with a lot of restrictions being lifted or relaxed and having more freedom as long as we do the right thing and stay in our own state and I am happy to do that, as Queensland is my home state, its a big state.

Ashley
 

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I had been hunkered down for a long time until a family emergency in England. I had to fly there via Chicago. Not many in England where I was were wearing masks. I had to go out and about there for 2 weeks. Wore my mask etc. I made the mistake of checking into England on my British passport and then I had to leave England on the US passport because English are not allowed in the US at the moment, red flag, but sorted after a while. They gave me a basic health check on my return in Chicago. Told me to quarantine for 14 days and take my temp twice a day. 10 more days to go. I feel good. I wonder if I am allowed out on the bike? Well I might head out up the mountain soon...
 

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They going to do health check on me at dentist tomorrow plus got to sign a waiver ....
 

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I've been retired since 2005, so it's been a while. If my wife called me a hermit before what do you think I am now? Recluse, malcontent? I keep busy with home projects, currently painting all the patio furniture. I take it down to the barn/shed where I clean it and hang it in the shed to paint. I've bought about 40 cans of spray paint by now. Much easier than cleaning up spray equipment.

I don't really know if I'm high risk other than age, I don't have any 'pre conditions', except old age. I just can't work standing on my feet much any more, they hurt too much, so I take a lot of breaks, with wine. Wine helps during the day, but makes me anxious at night sometimes. I keep thinking about getting the bike out, but just never seem to be able to get up that much motivation. I know I can start it, but my reflexes and the wobblies don't help, much less the leg cramps. I was pretty depressed last night, it seems to come an go. I get my blood work next week and then off to the doc to see what's up, but mostly nothing changes, all my blood work is fine, blood pressure is always 120/70 (with meds), can't complain, but I whine a lot to him about foot pain and general weakness, but I never was a real exerciser. I can still walk miles though. Easy to do out here in the country, but the ticks are bad this year.

Got the tractor out last week to mow the south 10 and 'bang'. The coupler between the front engine pulley and the hydraulic pump gave out and flew up into the fan blade, punching a hole in the radiator. So I've got most of the parts for that ready to put back together, just waiting for a couple bolts to finish the job. The old radiator never did hold water anyhow and it's another project to keep me busy. Mowing is a great antidote to oldtimers anxiety. I've got about 3 hours of yard mowing which I hit maybe every 2 weeks and then about 20 acres of fields which takes me about 8 hours on the tractor. I use a sickle bar mower, it goes faster than the 'bush hog'. I can mow a solid 7' at a whack with the bar. I'm lucky to get 4' a pass with the bush hog.

I can't wait for the election. Hope I'm not disappointed or I'll really get depressed. I told my wife a couple years ago I was ready to move to Germany, at least I can understand some of the language. It wouldn't take me long to pick it back up. And they're not all that looney. Hate to say it, but there's some real ignoramuses around here. I call it willful negligence/ignorance. Even our yard guy that comes once a week (Salvadoran) knows how to act in this pandemic. Poor guy is completely illegal here but it must be better than where he came from. Far as I'm concerned, where your born is just a happenstance of nature. I just happened to get lucky and be of european extraction and my parents did well, dad was an artillery officer in ww2 and stayed in for the duration. But then he too escaped Kansas.

Stay safe guys.
 
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At lease DogT you are keeping active which is the most important thing when getting older, in 6 1/2 years of no longer working I still have no problems with keeping busy, I have done a few paid jobs on other peoples Norton's but I have now decided to no longer do but will always help someone when needed, I still have my Slimline project bike to finish off but I wait till I really run out of projects lol, at the moment to many other thing happening.

Ashley
 

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I wonder if I am allowed out on the bike? Well I might head out up the mountain soon...
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ATGATT.
Wear a mask.
Stay at home in isolation if you are at risk, or may have been exposed.
14 days in isolation wont kill you.
But a crash on your bike and a med-tech who has been exposed to infected non-mask wearing folks just might.
Or, if you are not tested and are infected, you might just kill them.

Stay safe. Be kind.
 
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Something to chew on, before we had the virus in early Jan,I was strong enough to swim 90% of a full length public swimming pool UNDER WATER. Now 5 months on I can not dig a hole for a pot plant without running out of breath. I did not need oxygen to recover so lungs only partly affected. I understand that lungs will not repair , God help me if I'm not now immune. Another bout will finish me off in a flash.
I had hernia after a full gallbladder removal, a surgeon refused to repair as it was in the wrong place and also due to my asthma I was in a high risk re-occurrence as coughing strains the repair. When I presented myself 9 months later at A&E with a twisted colon I was operated on within hours, he had do do the hernia repair anyway or I could not be discharged. Just before I left he told me he would not operate if the hernia reappeared and predicted a 100% chance of it reoccurring especially as he had not used mesh in the repair. I was told not to lift even a full kettle.

I have enjoyed the last few years proving this surgeon is wrong, I followed an slow but steady exercise regime, eat an apple and eat protein every day.


I now can kick start all my bikes. put them all on and off centre stands, lift 25kg bags of coal etc with no signs of the hernia failing.

My dodgy back limits me more than my hernia repair.

In your case I would be taking Vitamin D to reduce likelihood of further respiratory infections and gently push a little harder each day on the exercise.

You may have scarring in the lungs but the good bits left can be pushed so they can take some of the strain. Just breathing consciously deeper than needed and using the diaphragm a lot more can make a difference.

My lungs always test low capacity due to asthma, but I can walk long distances at a stiff pace without running out of breath.
 
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Keep safe, guys. In a minute we might have a vaccine. 'It is an ill wind which blows no good' - Think about what we have learned from Covid 19.
In Australia, we will never look at China in the same way, again. Some people are even talking about starting to resume manufacturing in Australia. - I don't think we have a hope of doing that because we have lost continuity. My working life was spent working on systems, materials and processes in engineering factories Most of my type of person are now dead, and there were not many of us anyway. After I retired, I did a bit of sessional teaching, but school teachers tend to guard their turf very well. Vocational training is beneath the dignity of many academics. They would much rather train problem-solvers, when they would not know what a real problem looks like..
 
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We are entering a very dangerous phase now, with the lifting of lockdown, its all guesswork,no one really knows ,the finances are pushing things. I had to go into hospital for some tests, The NHS could not sort themselves out so they sent me Private!, What a difference!, Clean ,polite,considerate,fast. A treat!!.
 

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‘Finances pushing things’ isn’t quite right IMHO...

Current best case scenario, IF current vaccine trails succeed, is mid next year before they become available, then what, perhaps another 6-12 months to inoculate the global population.

So, 18-24 months before the vaccine has got us covered.

Society simply cannot function / continue to exist under a 18-24 month ‘lockdown’.

So, it has to be lifted.

How, and how fast, is all fair debate. But it is beyond debate that it cannot be lifted for the next 18-24 months.

It is societies need to function that is the driver, part of which is indeed finances, we haven’t yet invented a modern society that can survive without finances !
 

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It will most likely be 2 years before there's a global inoculation available. First they have to come up with one, then make sure it's safe and then go into production. It's not that simple, there has to be testing and we still don't understand the infection.

As far as a functioning society, I think we can, but with some semblance of respect for others. We may have to put up with a lot of restrictions and that is not happening here in the US. One man's 'liberty' is not license to give another a life threatening disease, it's not a car accident. But at nearly 77, I doubt I'll see the end of it. Unfortunately it's become a culture war here which always happens lately. I'm really getting tired of this 'us and them' attitude here. good grief, we speak the same language and eat the same BBQ. And even ride the same M/C's. I've told that to some of my right leaning folks and they just don't want to hear it, even my uncle told me 'you have your truths and I have mine'. 'Alternate facts' have become the new norm for some. Don't get me started.
 

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It will most likely be 2 years before there's a global inoculation available. First they have to come up with one, then make sure it's safe and then go into production. It's not that simple, there has to be testing and we still don't understand the infection.

As far as a functioning society, I think we can, but with some semblance of respect for others. We may have to put up with a lot of restrictions and that is not happening here in the US.
That’s how I see it, ‘lockdowns’ as they are in most countries have to be lifted at some point so that society can function, and we need sensible, targeted restrictions / changes like masks when in close proximity, screens in stores, sensible social distancing in restaurants and other public spaces, local lock downs for spikes, etc.

My worry about the vaccine is that by the time it arrives, the virus will have mutated, OR there’ll be another...
 
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The past two days have been the worst ever for new infections in the U.S.

Despite what you see and hear, things are only getting worse.
 

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The US has approximately 4.25% of the world's population. It has 26% of worldwide Covid-19 deaths.
 
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