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Instead of a King James part quote
How about this one...
YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANT MAKE IT DRINK.
I don't read the Bible.or the Torah. Or the Koran.

But I agree with the assertion. We own many horses...
 

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I don't read the Bible.or the Torah. Or the Koran.

But I agree with the assertion. We own many horses...
NEWS QUICK READS:

_Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan Lofven will step down in November

_British commander in Afghanistan calls.for Joe biden's court-martial

_Aussies begin to resist the lockdowns.."‘They can’t arrest us all’: Horse-mounted protesters steal the show at Australian anti-lockdown rally

_France: Thousands rally in Paris against COVID health pass for 6th consecutive weekend

_Vaccinated Rev. Jesse Jackson and His Wife Jacqueline Have Been Hospitalized
_Chaotic scenes as protesters break through police barricades in Melbourne, Australia

_NIH Director Admits School Mask Mandates Enforced on Children Are Not Based on COVID-19 Data

_20,595 DEAD 1.9 MILLION INJURED (50% SERIOUS) REPORTED IN EUROPEAN UNION’S DATABASE OF ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS FOR COVID-19 SHOTS

_Covid vaccine trials were stopped in animals because they kept dying revealed and Texas Senate hearing

_Brazil Court Rules Against Google Over Censorship of Trump Statements: Allan Dos Santos

_More Than Half of Israeli COVID-19 Patients Vaccinated as ‘Breakthrough Cases’ Rise

_Border Patrol Seizes Thousands of Fake CDC COVID-19 Vaccine Cards From China

_ Rail workers are going on strike against the vaccine passport in France from August 28th to October 17th!

_2nd round of German railways STRIKES to begin

_Amazing energy in Amsterdam as the Netherlands joined the millions around the world making their voices heard against Coronavirus tyranny.

_16 COUNTRIES through Europe will hold Protests in major cities and capitals in the next week's with hundreds of cities slated across the world to protest against the Lockdowns, vaccines, vaccines passports. Vaccines mandates.

_Donald Trump says “Everything woke turns to shit!.” and had over tens of millions tune into his live speech Saturday night

_BCC drops for major stories on vaccines deaths. Vaccines booster schemes and Warning if."catching Covid now better than more vaccines?" "Gain immunity either through vaccines or Infection"

_The vaccinated are worried and the scientists don't have answers_ article by Kristen V Brown hits Bloomberg
 

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NEWS QUICK READS:

_Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan Lofven will step down in November

_British commander in Afghanistan calls.for Joe biden's court-martial

_Aussies begin to resist the lockdowns.."‘They can’t arrest us all’: Horse-mounted protesters steal the show at Australian anti-lockdown rally

_France: Thousands rally in Paris against COVID health pass for 6th consecutive weekend

_Vaccinated Rev. Jesse Jackson and His Wife Jacqueline Have Been Hospitalized
_Chaotic scenes as protesters break through police barricades in Melbourne, Australia

_NIH Director Admits School Mask Mandates Enforced on Children Are Not Based on COVID-19 Data

_20,595 DEAD 1.9 MILLION INJURED (50% SERIOUS) REPORTED IN EUROPEAN UNION’S DATABASE OF ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS FOR COVID-19 SHOTS

_Covid vaccine trials were stopped in animals because they kept dying revealed and Texas Senate hearing

_Brazil Court Rules Against Google Over Censorship of Trump Statements: Allan Dos Santos

_More Than Half of Israeli COVID-19 Patients Vaccinated as ‘Breakthrough Cases’ Rise

_Border Patrol Seizes Thousands of Fake CDC COVID-19 Vaccine Cards From China

_ Rail workers are going on strike against the vaccine passport in France from August 28th to October 17th!

_2nd round of German railways STRIKES to begin

_Amazing energy in Amsterdam as the Netherlands joined the millions around the world making their voices heard against Coronavirus tyranny.

_16 COUNTRIES through Europe will hold Protests in major cities and capitals in the next week's with hundreds of cities slated across the world to protest against the Lockdowns, vaccines, vaccines passports. Vaccines mandates.

_Donald Trump says “Everything woke turns to shit!.” and had over tens of millions tune into his live speech Saturday night

_BCC drops for major stories on vaccines deaths. Vaccines booster schemes and Warning if."catching Covid now better than more vaccines?" "Gain immunity either through vaccines or Infection"

_The vaccinated are worried and the scientists don't have answers_ article by Kristen V Brown hits Bloomberg
Dude. You are spouting rubbish.

I picked one of your cited quick reads that was on topic (a lot if them don't seem to be):

_20,595 DEAD 1.9 MILLION INJURED (50% SERIOUS) REPORTED IN EUROPEAN UNION’S DATABASE OF ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS FOR COVID-19 SHOTS

"The post specifically looks at vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca, offering a breakdown of the different injuries and deaths purportedly associated with each vaccine using numbers from a European Union-maintained database called EudraVigilance.

The EudraVigilance database itself cautions the information it collects is for "suspected side effects ... but which are not necessarily related to our caused by the medicine.

Information on suspected side effects should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine or the active substance causes the observed effect or is unsafe to use,"


The image includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It compiles data on suspected vaccination side effects.

Text overlaid in the image reads in part: “Vaccine: Deaths & Injuries
"Pfizer: 5,961 / 452,779
"Moderna: 3,365 / 72,596
"AstraZeneca: 2,489 / 655,534
"J&J: 369 / 15,281”.

Fabricated graphic​

The screenshot does not show an official graphic issued by the EMA, a spokesperson confirmed to AFP on June 14, 2021.

"We confirm that this is not a graphic published by EMA," the spokesperson said.

The same graphic was published on this meme-sharing site,


Enough already.
 

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Ya, I've now placed the Kiwi-fruitcake on Ignore status (hover over the username/avatar to find the Ignore option). If he keeps it up I'm sure an Admin will banish him from the forum...has happened to others previously on this thread.

Well past the use by date IMHO.
 

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I don't believe the member you are name calling-out for banning was trying to antagonize...just expressing their strong and opposing opinion on the same level as you.
With more than a few parties of strongly differing opinions/viewpoints, that's a good thing.;)
I stated earlier I have gained a lot of insight in both directions following this thread.
 

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I don't believe the member you are name calling-out for banning was trying to antagonize...just expressing their strong and opposing opinion on the same level as you.
With more than a few parties of strongly differing opinions/viewpoints, that's a good thing.;)
I stated earlier I have gained a lot of insight in both directions following this thread.
There is a site wide prohibition on political talk....this fella keeps flogging his politics. Others have been banned for this on this very thread.
 

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There are a whole lot of politically based opinions in the 120 pages this thread has generated. If one is singled out so the others must be, balance, fairness etc.
I got no dog in this discussion other than information value attained.
You be well. ;)
 
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Trying to get someone banned because they don't agree with you.
Is this what they are talking about when they say "cancel culture"?
 

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Trying to get someone banned because they don't agree with you.
Is this what they are talking about when they say "cancel culture"?
I've never tried to get someone banned. I just announced I'm ignoring him and he may get banned if he continues his ways (by the admin). That's a warning to him to change his ways.
 

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I've never tried to get someone banned. I just announced I'm ignoring him and he may get banned if he continues his ways (by the admin). That's a warning to him to change his ways.
Ah, now a warning has been issued.
And a mandate to "change his ways" .

Maybe taking advantage of that ignore button you covet is in order right away.
 

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Dude. You are spouting rubbish.

I picked one of your cited quick reads that was on topic (a lot if them don't seem to be):

_20,595 DEAD 1.9 MILLION INJURED (50% SERIOUS) REPORTED IN EUROPEAN UNION’S DATABASE OF ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS FOR COVID-19 SHOTS

"The post specifically looks at vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca, offering a breakdown of the different injuries and deaths purportedly associated with each vaccine using numbers from a European Union-maintained database called EudraVigilance.

The EudraVigilance database itself cautions the information it collects is for "suspected side effects ... but which are not necessarily related to our caused by the medicine.

Information on suspected side effects should not be interpreted as meaning that the medicine or the active substance causes the observed effect or is unsafe to use,"


The image includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It compiles data on suspected vaccination side effects.

Text overlaid in the image reads in part: “Vaccine: Deaths & Injuries
"Pfizer: 5,961 / 452,779
"Moderna: 3,365 / 72,596
"AstraZeneca: 2,489 / 655,534
"J&J: 369 / 15,281”.

Fabricated graphic​

The screenshot does not show an official graphic issued by the EMA, a spokesperson confirmed to AFP on June 14, 2021.

"We confirm that this is not a graphic published by EMA," the spokesperson said.

The same graphic was published on this meme-sharing site,


Enough already.
Oh so have you fact checked me
What a joke....seriously ...
Two weeks ago your trolls were saying Biden was a compendent president...how's that political capital looking now ???
Do me a favor...Get off Google/facebook/etc if you really what to investigate facts
Good luck protecting yourself..
The Biden regime will be over very soon....fact check that...
 

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There are a whole lot of politically based opinions in the 120 pages this thread has generated. If one is singled out so the others must be, balance, fairness etc.
I got no dog in this discussion other than information value attained.
You be well. ;)
With respect the public world wide are getting medical advice/guidance from politicians...Than highly qualified medical practitioners that have been censored with this factchecker cancel culture
Demonstrated by a member in a recent post used to try and debunk deaths attributed to vaccine deaths by political fact checker
So are they saying no deaths to vaccine medical misadventures or just mulnipulating the data for now...that others have presented...The latter being the case in question.
 

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With respect the public world wide are getting medical advice/guidance from politicians...Than highly qualified medical practitioners that have been censored with this factchecker cancel culture
Demonstrated by a member in a recent post used to try and debunk deaths attributed to vaccine deaths by political fact checker
So are they saying no deaths to vaccine medical misadventures or just mulnipulating the data for now...that others have presented...The latter being the case in question.
Dude, what are you going on about?

The meme you show (which you cited in your list of news quick reads) includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

THEY have said "We confirm that this is not a graphic published by EMA".

And

The EMA spokesperson also told AFP on June 9, 2021 that cases reported to EudraVigilance do not prove vaccines have caused an adverse reaction.

“Spontaneous case reports of suspected [adverse drug reactions] alone are rarely sufficient to prove that a certain suspected reaction has indeed been caused by a specific medicine,” the spokesperson said.

“This could be a symptom of another illness, or it could be associated with another medicinal product taken by the patient at the same time.”

The EudraVigilance website indicates the figures it compiles do not confirm links between vaccination and reported adverse events.

A disclaimer on the website reads: “The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, i.e. medical events that have been observed following the use of a medicine, but which are not necessarily related to or caused by the medicine.”


I would add that they COULD be. However, correlation does not prove causation - which is the short way of saying what EMA says directly above.

I am citing quotes from the source, not a political fact checker.


You are spouting someone else's propaganda, man.
 

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Dude, what are you going on about?

The meme you show (which you cited in your list of news quick reads) includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

THEY have said "We confirm that this is not a graphic published by EMA".

And

The EMA spokesperson also told AFP on June 9, 2021 that cases reported to EudraVigilance do not prove vaccines have caused an adverse reaction.

“Spontaneous case reports of suspected [adverse drug reactions] alone are rarely sufficient to prove that a certain suspected reaction has indeed been caused by a specific medicine,” the spokesperson said.

“This could be a symptom of another illness, or it could be associated with another medicinal product taken by the patient at the same time.”

The EudraVigilance website indicates the figures it compiles do not confirm links between vaccination and reported adverse events.

A disclaimer on the website reads: “The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, i.e. medical events that have been observed following the use of a medicine, but which are not necessarily related to or caused by the medicine.”


I would add that they COULD be. However, correlation does not prove causation - which is the short way of saying what EMA says directly above.

I am citing quotes from the source, not a political fact checker.


You are spouting someone else's propaganda, man.
Dude the graphic you just mentioned as fact checked said 12 000 + victims
The one I screen shot is 20,000 + victims
So which one is it then ???
Can you specifically fact check the one I posted ?
Here fact check this guy...as mentioned by the M.P in N.S.W Parliament this week..that i previously posted ......
 

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Dude the graphic you just mentioned as fact checked said 12 000 + victims
The one I screen shot is 20,000 + victims
So which one is it then ???
Both.

Edit: any source which cites "victims" according to data from this db.

"The EudraVigilance website indicates the figures it compiles do not confirm links between vaccination and reported adverse events.

A disclaimer on the website reads: “The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, i.e. medical events that have been observed following the use of a medicine, but which are not necessarily related to or caused by the medicine.”
 
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