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Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by David Hales, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. David Hales

    David Hales

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    think the bubble has burst on the dominator ss, naked etc, or it’s just the time of year, or the fact that they are doing a new numbered version, mine and a couple others on eBay at £21,000, 10 watchers, no interest or offers
     
  2. TonyA

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    Their desire to pay less is greater than their desire to own one. Why are you selling it ? Well never mind , not my business .
     
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  3. Eljahara

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    Al has had his Commando SE up for a while in car and classic, great condition - no bites!
    Getting to the end of summer riding here in U.K. so interest will be even less....
    And still haven’t got mine back from Donnington to be able to sell!
     
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  4. Fast Eddie

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    Norton have increased production in recent years, thus getting more bikes onto the market. Many do low miles, quite a few get moved on relatively quickly (for various reasons), the net result of all this is a glut of 961 Commandos and Dominators on the second hand market in the U.K. currently.

    Add to that, the average buyer of such a bike is a middle aged man with healthy disposable income. And most of these will likely prefer the appeal of a new bike, with 2 years warranty, etc.

    I think owners have to start facing up to the fact that they are used motorcycles, rather than investment pieces. And like any high end motorcycles, prices drop quickly in the first few years of ownership.

    The long term picture may well be different, but we’ll have to wait n see.

    All only IMHO of course.
     
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  5. BritTwit

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    Ditto.
     
  6. thesixthelephant

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  7. Voodooo

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    You can’t buy something new and expect a return on investment. Not gonna happen unless it has a high demand. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Norton owner myself, owning a Naked and SF, but to think I’d get my money back or close to what I paid is gonna only bring disappointment. Like FastEddie said. Maybe in the future, but not now.
    And to be honest, modern Norton’s don’t have the same winning success the vintage models had. Ever hear the term, “Win on Sunday sell on Monday “??
     
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  8. Fast Eddie

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  9. MxMartin

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    Also add that most that want/wanted a new Norton are likely to already own one (or have owned one) so that leaves a small group of riders who want one at any price so will probably buy new as FE said, and another diminishing group who would buy one if the price is right. Alas the buyer of my bike is in that 2nd group, and he will likely have several to choose from.

    Long term.... I won't be around in the long term :)
     
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  10. Bluey72e

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    That's $37'665.00 AU Dollars, no matter what at the end of the day that's a huge amount of money for a used bike. New Norton's are hugely expensive rich men's toys, My mate keeps shaking his head at how much I bought my second hand 2015 CR for (I couldn't afford to loose $10k off the bat on new) compared to his BMW 1000 R that has all the bells and whistle's and nigh on double the performance.

    He admits that the Norton is a spectacular looking Bike, massive "Ole Blitey" nostalgia but an economic disaster and mechanically questionable in this day and age.

    I love my CR and plan on handicapping my son..... :eek: I mean handing it to my son one day :cool:
     
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  11. Deano

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    For the reasons already mentioned in this thread regarding purchase options of new vs used available to the typical buyer etc, I opted to go for a used one myself on the basis that the worst depreciation on a vehicle is at the beginning of its life. That way, I can happily enjoy my bike, improve areas of it back to as new or better as they get a little bit tatty and all the knowledge that it will hold the value of what I paid for it, give or take. The downside is no warranty of course but you would hope that the worst of any issues should have shown themselves by now & been sorted anyway.

    I'll put my tin hat on... ;)
     
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  12. Britfan60

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    Unlike past years, Harley resales are abysmal. I can get a super low mileage 2017 for 35 -40% less than new. The young generation is done with "king of cool" and the market is saturated. It has very little to do with reputation.
     
  13. Voodooo

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    Problem is, nothing that Harley currently makes is cool. Millennials don’t want old man looking bikes. HD needs to stop making that same damn 1970s themed bikes. Enough already.
     
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  14. Deano

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    Harley Davidson no longer dominates the cruiser/retro market like it once did. There are a lot of decent options out there now for a person of a certain age (mainly) to choose from, with Norton, Triumph and others all competing for market share. The Japanese makers all build decent enough retro bikes too. Harley sales are largely built on fierce brand loyalty where nothing other than an original US built chrome plated horse will suffice, even to the extent of shutting out better and cheaper options. But it's increasingly hard to see why anyone with a more open mind would choose a Harley above other makes these days IMHO... ;)
     
  15. BritTwit

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    I think the message has been received in Milwaukee.
    Harley's new 2020 line includes new sporty machines, with new DOHC V-Twins.
    The heritage stuff will probably remain in the lineup until Boomers are ultimately too old to throw a leg over a bike.
     
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  16. worntorn

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    Norton might be the only brand where a used bike has a greater chance of reliability than new, provided the previous owner has tackled the issues.

    Glen
     
  17. Voodooo

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    They’re to late to the game. They build to many of the same genre.
     
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  18. 961al

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    YES ELJAHARA... my 961 CR/SF has been for sale for quite a while now, both on here and car&classic...and only had complete timewasters....with it being a 1 owner bike, just 2000m, £1000's of extras, what minor problems the bikes had, ironed out a LONG time ago, AND about 8K less than what it would cost new with all the extras (at £12500)..i thought it would've sold by now (as a few have mentioned to me). As FE knows, i love the bike and its only up for sale due to having an order in for a Superlight...but that bike seems to be going along the notorious ''delayed'' path..SO if anyone wants a beltin 961, buy my bike before i decide to keep it and scrap the SL !:confused:
     
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  19. TonyA

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  20. BritTwit

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    The new 2020 Harley Streetfighter looks promising, but I'll wait until I can get a test ride before passing judgment.

    https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2020-harley-davidson-streetfighter-preview/

    Already don't like:
    1. Pregnant looking fuel tank, like something off an adventure bike
    2. "Melted"/droopy modern headlight assembly up front
    3. Traditionally boring, conservative Harley logo.
    4. Appears you can have one in any color, as long as it's BLACK!
     

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