Peter Williams Monocoque reborn
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who said all the parts are New?
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The really great thing about this bike is that even though it is a replica, it is extremely authentic. I believe there will still be idiots around who will try to exclude it from racing , the really great thing about motorcycling is the petty jealousy it engenders. - Totally counterproductive !
I will bet there will never be a race class to suit it, F750 is dead, buried, and gone forever.
The gallery page on this web site is really good:
http://peterwilliamsmotorcycles.com/history/gallery/
I will bet there will never be a race class to suit it, F750 is dead, buried, and gone forever.
The gallery page on this web site is really good:
http://peterwilliamsmotorcycles.com/history/gallery/
acotrel said:
The pic(s) of the Arter Matchless are where Peter Williams really made his name with bike development ?
Those mag wheels on a single, nicknamed "The wheelbarow" at the time, really transformed that bike apparently.
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Wire wheels flex at speed, and cast wheels upped the handling quite significantly.
On a fast single cylinder, this was significant.
Of course, by then faster twins were all the go, so this was a step too late.
But those wheels appeared a while later, on the twins...
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I was just watching a video of the original bike at the IOM on youtube. Very cool.
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Rohan,
'If they sell enough, they could start their own class of racing :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Although, at that price, that might be wishful thinking....'
It is always a chicken and egg situation and the outcome depends on getting beyond a critical mass. I f there is no race class,why would you buy the bike ? If there are no bikes, why would you start a race class? The simple fact of the matter is that there are usually enough bikes to start any race class depending on the applicable rules, however it is important to start as you intend to continue. Norton twins are thunderbikes -two valve four sroke singles, triples, twins of up to 1000cc - and that's all the class needs to be. It will never happen !
'If they sell enough, they could start their own class of racing :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Although, at that price, that might be wishful thinking....'
It is always a chicken and egg situation and the outcome depends on getting beyond a critical mass. I f there is no race class,why would you buy the bike ? If there are no bikes, why would you start a race class? The simple fact of the matter is that there are usually enough bikes to start any race class depending on the applicable rules, however it is important to start as you intend to continue. Norton twins are thunderbikes -two valve four sroke singles, triples, twins of up to 1000cc - and that's all the class needs to be. It will never happen !
grandpaul said:
Hello Chaps,
Well spotted, I hold my hand up the crank image was my mistake. We had a huge number of images from Peters collection and I put the wrong one on the website, I had hoped I'd get away with until after the weekend. Peter picked up on it straight away. I just haven't had a chance to change it yet.
The engines will be built for us by Mick Hemmings, using Peters PW3 cams. Parts will come from Andover Norton. The gearbox is a Quaife item.
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Given Time ' only four were built , and theres only 29 left . ' 
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Bring the 29 to Phillip Island, and line them up, I'd love to get on the grid alongside them. This thread gives me a really good feeling. Just as long as the guys who buy them hold out for a decent race class similar to the Lansdowne Series, things could be really beautiful. Also it could be interesting to see how they go alongside aircooled Ducati 750s. I think the Norton monocoque would absolutely cream them. Speed in racing is only relative, and a good commando is really a bloody fast bike when raced against others of similar technology.
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Wonderful to see this level of a New Norton coming online. I am noting the spoke wheel issues and have seen it mentioned in the Munch 'Mammoth' too which required cast Al wheel. Can wait to hear about how it handles if some risk trying it out on track days. Its the most notable Norton to date to me d/t the handling it allowed.
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There might be a good sized market for rolling chasses, I wonder what the price would be for a frame kit? It looks like something that could be farmed out to an aircraft bonding facility. A longish production run would get the costs down. I think every Norton lover on the planet would want one. - It has got real potential.
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bwolfie said:
AN parts as the man said, but also remembet that Mick Hemmings is the UK importer for FullAuto heads and he was involved in the project by supplying original drawings.....
I have one of these heads on order through Mick....for my short stroke 750 project....now all I have to do is get the money together before it arrives....
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" There might be a good sized market for rolling chasses "
TO RIGHT . . :wink:
If they :shock: removed their braincells from 70s ineptitude :x AND DID a Victor Gauntlet . :lol: :lol:
Which is to say ; announce production run of FRAMES ( Facilities Permittiung ) and TAKE DEPOSITS , delivery over Two Years . (
) and Duble the Price later :lol: :lol: :lol: 
as per the original V8 Zagato & convertable Z . Astons .
we'd need the Mag Alloy fork sliders and AJ Triple clamps availability too . Though no doubt a GSX R front end would fit . :cry: :x
LIKE Duckati did with the F1 750 , almost. more or less . something like .
wonder if garners engine would fit .
:x Oh No . :roll:
TO RIGHT . . :wink:
If they :shock: removed their braincells from 70s ineptitude :x AND DID a Victor Gauntlet . :lol: :lol:
Which is to say ; announce production run of FRAMES ( Facilities Permittiung ) and TAKE DEPOSITS , delivery over Two Years . (
) and Duble the Price later :lol: :lol: :lol: as per the original V8 Zagato & convertable Z . Astons .
we'd need the Mag Alloy fork sliders and AJ Triple clamps availability too . Though no doubt a GSX R front end would fit . :cry: :x
LIKE Duckati did with the F1 750 , almost. more or less . something like .
wonder if garners engine would fit .
:x Oh No . :roll:
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It looks like the sort of chassis that somebody could fit the big Weslake engine into ? However I still believe that for the project to be really successful, there must be an appropriate race class where the bikes can be used against others of similar technology, F750 was killed off by two strokes and four cylinder bikes. I suggest that it would take a really good 1000cc aircooled Ducati twin or Laverda triple to beat a monocoque commando with a decent engine. Repeating history by running it against two strokes would be idiocy.
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