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Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by Kid Thunder, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. Kid Thunder

    Kid Thunder

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    Hi new US owner here. Hope I can find all the help I need here!!
    A little background: 70 years old. Been riding for 47 years. Bikes owned now: 2003 Aprilia Tuono, 2015 EBR1190SX, 2015 Norton Commando 961 SE.
    1: How do I remove the seat? Duh! There are 2 socket head bolts under the seat area pointing up. When I loosen them(But not completely remove)the seat the seat does not appear to move at all. Are these the bolt b4 I remove then all the way.
    2:Bike came without owners manual. How do I locate on eith hard copy or on line?
    3:Service manual also?
    4:Can I change idle?
    I'm sure these questions are all really basic & actually funny. But I'm flying blind right now!!!!
    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. thesixthelephant

    thesixthelephant

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    1. Remove both bolts completely and lift front of the seat up and ease the locating lug from the rear under the lip of the seat hump. 2.The Factory. send them an Email. 3. Richard7 is the Guru and he publishes his stuff on line. do a search of the Forum for his posts and links to his website. 4. as far as I'm aware the idle is controlled via the ECU, but someone may re-educate me on that. Remember tho', before doing anything, it's best to discuss it first with your Norton as it won't take well to surprises. Welcome to our world of Agony and Ecstasy :)
     
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  3. Kid Thunder

    Kid Thunder

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    Thanks! I do discuss everything everything with all my bikes!!!!
    So it's the bolts under the seat & not on the side of the frame?
    What is the factory email address?
    I figured that about the idle. My 03 Aprilia has a touch screw for idle.
    I'm gonna love this site!!
     
  4. gchoppin

    gchoppin

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    Yes and no. There are two, I think 6 mm Allen screws, under the seat on each side of the frame that anchor the seat. They travel through the frame. Remove those screws and lift up. My be snug but will tilt out from the front.
     
  5. Britfan60

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    Good luck getting your seat bolts back in. It's an adventure. Sometimes we get lucky, sometimes the sweat runs down our faces and we grind our teeth down to a nub trying to get that second bolt in. Stupidest design ever. Especially since the female clip under the seat slides.:mad: They are 5mm. Stick a 5mm hex key in your pocket and don't leave home without it in case you have to get under the seat in a pinch. Your relays and fuses are under there. Have fun riding it. It's a blast. It's going to fulfill your yearning for something old school and vibey.
     
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  6. Fast Eddie

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    Yeah I’ve had some fun with those too. My thoughts were to grind a point on the end of the bolts to help them self centre in those silly flimsy female clips.
     
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  7. Britfan60

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    Or tack it in so they don't slide. I've taken them out and successfully put them back easily, but now I just can't get the left one in. I think the clip bent. One holds it fairly well for now.
     
  8. Fast Eddie

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    I’ve been using a screwdriver to locate and centralise the clips before putting the screws in.

    That and learning the daft angle that they are at has made it easier.

    Still reckon grinding a point on is a sensible idea tho.
     
  9. Britfan60

    Britfan60 VIP MEMBER

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    That always been my method. Mr. Cootes....how about manufacturing sime little T shaped spri g loaded method. They'll sell like hotcakes.
     
  10. Rob Jameson - Norton UK

    Rob Jameson - Norton UK

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    If you email me warranty@nortonmotorcycles.com i'll help with manuals etc.

    Fast Eddie's method of fitting the seat is exactly the same as mine, well done!

    You can't reset the idle, your bike is most likely fitted with an SC ECU, and you will need to plug in via software to do this. The dealers are the only people we permit to have the software.
     
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  11. Kid Thunder

    Kid Thunder

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    Nice forum. I'm on the AF1 forums for my Aprilia & EBR & they are a great help also.
     
  12. thesixthelephant

    thesixthelephant

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    Kid Thunder never mentioned re-fitting the seat. I didn't have the Heart to tell him. :). The bolts on mine have been out since day 1, I figured that after 20 mins of fannying about they must be a 1 use only design and as I sit on the seat I didn't need them and hence don't need to carry the extra weight of an Allen key.
     
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  13. BritTwit

    BritTwit VIP MEMBER

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    I use an ice pick to align the holes.
    I just use what is at hand while I'm chopping ice for my whiskey.
     
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  14. nopdog

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    Use thicker metal (heavier) female clips.
     
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  15. Peter Smith

    Peter Smith

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    2018 50th anniversary Sport.
    I took my seat off for the second time today, the plastic mount which holds/supports the spire clip has snapped off. (can't discover how to post photos), does anyone know of a fix???
     
  16. Fast Eddie

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    I can only presume it was over tightened Peter.

    If you still have one side that's fixed with the bolt, I'd just run it like that.

    You may be able to get it plastic welded depending on exactly what its made from, but the seat bolts are fiddly to fit at the best of times, any minor miss alignment when welded will make it worse, possibly impossible, to locate the screws.

    If you really want a fix, I would suggest a new seat base is your only option. Which, unless you're best mates with a top upholsterer, probably means buying the whole seat.
     
  17. richard-7

    richard-7

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    That is exactly what we do to.
     
  18. Steve Moore

    Steve Moore

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    My solution? Don't bother with the bolts/clip arrangement as the seat is reasonably well held in place....
     
  19. nopdog

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    Or upgrade the clips!
     
  20. MxMartin

    MxMartin

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    I've worked out that if I push my clips forward as far as they go and then put seat on frame as far forward as it will go then my bolts go straight in, no faffing about :)
     

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