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Hi All,
The Intake lobes of the new stock cam touched lightly on the bottom side of the tunnel of the 1970 crankases halves.
After a lightly bankruptcy now is not more.
Because it touched?
Thank you.
Piero
 
Where did this 'stock' cam come from, Piero ?

Have you compared the approx heights of both the new and the old cams ?
Something must be different..

Not quite sure of the translation of bankruptcy there, you ground some of the tunnel to solve ??
 
pierodn said:
After a lightly bankruptcy now is not more.
Because it touched?

Piero, I think something has been lost in translation?
Could you try that again?
 
Because it interfered with the case, perhaps creating its own clearance, he want to know if it is safe to use.
or is it "Fallito" = broke, abortive, unsuccessful, kaput.

Best guess!
 
The Intake lobes of the new stock cam touched lightly on the bottom side of the tunnel of the 1970 crankases halves.
~ is it kaput now?.....("no more" might be scratches buffed out)...Because it touched?

got some pix?
 
L.A.B. said:
pierodn said:
After a lightly bankruptcy now is not more.
Because it touched?

Piero, I think something has been lost in translation?
Could you try that again?

Hi Les,
The Intake lobes of the new stock cam touched both against the bottom side of the tunnel of the 1970 crankases halves.
I had to ground (shave/bore/scrape) a very little bit of aluminum and so the lobes does not touch more.
Why it touched?
I dont have the old cam, the engine was a part.
Thank you.
Piero
 
A stock cam should not have touched the cases. Grinding the camshaft tunnel for clearance was necessary on earlier cases only when using higher lift camshafts. Are you sure you have a stock Commando cam?

Ken
 
lcrken said:
A stock cam should not have touched the cases. Grinding the camshaft tunnel for clearance was necessary on earlier cases only when using higher lift camshafts. Are you sure you have a stock Commando cam?

Ken

Hi Ken.
The cam comes from a 1971 engine, never opened before, and seems to be the same of the 1970 one.
The cases are 1970.
Please, what you mean for "lift camshaft"?.
Thank you.
Piero
 
pierodn said:
lcrken said:
A stock cam should not have touched the cases. Grinding the camshaft tunnel for clearance was necessary on earlier cases only when using higher lift camshafts.

Please, what you mean for "lift camshaft"?.
Thank you.
Piero


A high lift cam is aftermarket (usually) or a bigger cam opening the valves more. giving more "lift" the lobes on the cam will be bigger; so a larger cam will require grinding the tunnel for clearance. u <---- stock cam U <---- high lift cam

Not the best example but you get the idea. bigger lobe giving more valve lift.
 
The early cases will have a clearance problem with any cam that has more lift (taller lobes) than the stock Commando cam, which is usually marked with the letter S. With the higher performance factory cams (2S, 3S, and 4S) cams, as well as most aftermarket performance and race cams, the lifter tunnel must be enlarged for clearance. A stock 1971 Commando engine should have had an S cam. What markings does your cam have on it? If it has anything other than S, it is probably not a stock camshaft.

Ken
 
Hi All,
the engine is closed now and i dont remember if the cam had an S stamped on.
But, if it came from a running 1971 engine, and was like new, i hope it works well.
I assumed it was stock!
Do you think i have to dismount the engine to see what this cam is?
Thank you.
Piero
 
I would think if you can measure the valve lift, you may be able to determine if it's a high lift or not cam. Compare it to one of your known stock 750 bikes. You should be able to do this inside the intake and exhaust covers.

I'm probably in over my head here.
 
pierodn said:
Hi All,
the engine is closed now and i dont remember if the cam had an S stamped on.
But, if it came from a running 1971 engine, and was like new, i hope it works well.
I assumed it was stock!
Do you think i have to dismount the engine to see what this cam is?
Thank you.
Piero

Piero
You should know what cam you have in your engine. Don't Assume! :shock:
Based on what cam you have will determine the valve tappet clearances.
Use a dial gauge and a timing disk to determine the amount of valve lift.
Regards,
Thomas
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pierodn said:
CanukNortonNut said:
pierodn said:
Use a dial gauge and a timing disk to determine the amount of valve lift.

Hi.
Sorry but i dont understand what means.
Please, could you explain what i have to do?
Thank you.
Piero

Hi P
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dial indicator.


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timing disk.
give us the lift value of the inlet push rod at top dead center. Not maximum lift but the value at Top Dead Center.
Cheers
Thomas
CNN
 
Well.
I can say i dont know what cam i have inside!
The engine is well closed, the pushrods work fine, the valves have the cearance like per manual.
What i have to do?
Thank you.
Piero
 
pierodn said:
Well.
I can say i dont know what cam i have inside!
The engine is well closed, the pushrods work fine, the valves have the cearance like per manual.
What i have to do?
Thank you.
Piero

The point is Piero, your bike has tappet settings "as per the manual" but the point made earlier is that some high lift cams require different tappet gaps. And re not covered by the manual.

If you don't want to dial gauge it as per the earlier suggestion, or strip it to check, there don't appear to be many other options for you but to run it and try it!
 
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