MK3 electrical schematic

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Since I had my shop fire I have not had a MK3-850 service manual and never really missed it- until now.

I need a wiring diagram for a MK3 if anyone has one they could scan for me. I need to get my old MK3 on the road for my daughter to ride at the rally and the charging system is dead. Thanks, Jim
 
Jim

Chuck Ridenaur (Sabre13 on the Forum) has MkIII wiring in electronic format. Give him a PM....he has offered to share them.

Slick
 
comnoz said:
Since I had my shop fire I have not had a MK3-850 service manual and never really missed it- until now.

I need a wiring diagram for a MK3 if anyone has one they could scan for me. I need to get my old MK3 on the road for my daughter to ride at the rally and the charging system is dead. Thanks, Jim

Hi Jim
How old?
The very early ones (first 1000 or so) have the old style WLA and I have not found a schematic for them. The later ones with the solid state voltage detector are what are in the MKIII manual. I don't think there is much difference otherwise.
Dave
 
The very early ones (first 1000 or so) have the old style WLA and I have not found a schematic for them. The later ones with the solid state voltage detector are what are in the MKIII manual. I don't think there is much difference otherwise.
Dave

Dave,
My 75 MKIII, serial is 326xxx. That puts it at 1900+ off the assembly line and has the aluminum can WLA mounted (bolted, no spring) under the tank. There are a couple of wires that do not match the MKII color codes. I believe they are similar to the 74 in that respect.
Pete
 
dynodave said:
comnoz said:
Since I had my shop fire I have not had a MK3-850 service manual and never really missed it- until now.

I need a wiring diagram for a MK3 if anyone has one they could scan for me. I need to get my old MK3 on the road for my daughter to ride at the rally and the charging system is dead. Thanks, Jim

Hi Jim
How old?
The very early ones (first 1000 or so) have the old style WLA and I have not found a schematic for them. The later ones with the solid state voltage detector are what are in the MKIII manual. I don't think there is much difference otherwise.
Dave

Last time the bike was used I loaned it out. When it came back the e-start would no longer crank the engine. I figured the 9 year old battery had just finally died.

My bike is the later model with the solid state assimilator. It fried the wiring harness above the assimilator and took out the stator. It is getting simplified. Jim
 
Did you find a schematic?
If not I have the big white book, could take a photo and post. Scanner is down at the moment.

Glen
 
Jim, I have a coloured one I'll try and scan it, then comes the PROBLEM, getting it in the system!
Peter
 
Quite often it is easier to take a picture if you have a reasonable camera, most have a macro setting if needed.
It is then in a user friendly jpg format.
 
MK3 electrical schematic
 
Thanks Glen,
That tells me what I wanted to know. I am sure I could have done some testing and figured it out but this makes it easy. Jim
 
Please give me an E-mail address so I can send you a coloured diagram.
Peter. I'm not sure how to do all this whether it a PM or what, I & Hiroshima have one thing in common, we are to old to think!



AND WE GLOW IN THE DARK!!!
 
Chili said:
Please give me an E-mail address so I can send you a coloured diagram.
Peter. I'm not sure how to do all this whether it a PM or what, I & Hiroshima have one thing in common, we are to old to think!



AND WE GLOW IN THE DARK!!!

I would take that colored diagram. It's comnoz2 at juno dot com. Thanks, Jim
 
Try this on for size. Send me a PM and I will give it to you in Adobe or anyother format you would like. I aslo have stand alone circuits, Horm, Starter, and all the circuits from the master switch, ie T1 through T4.

Chuck
 

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A local man has contacted me to build a Mk3 schematic wiring for his father's retirement gift of a Mk3. He will purchase an electronic ign. shortly for it. Harness tossed in bin. Can anyone help with specific lengths of wire etc. to build up a new type one ? thanks. More soon.
 
Torontonian said:
A local man has contacted me to build a Mk3 schematic wiring for his father's retirement gift of a Mk3. He will purchase an electronic ign. shortly for it. Harness tossed in bin. Can anyone help with specific lengths of wire etc. to build up a new type one ? thanks. More soon.

Build a nail board using the old harness to locate breakouts and approximate lengths to terminations.
The wire is not laid in precut to length, leave about 6 - 9 inches extra at the termination points. When harness is routed in place on bike, trim wires to proper length to make terminations.

Use same wire gauge as old harness.

Here is an old post of mine that may help:

For anyone contemplating a complete re-wire job, here are some tips and suggestions:

1) make a schematic first. Follow Bengs advice regarding routing....try to be as efficient in wire use and inter-connections as possible. It is easier to change a wire with a pencil eraser than with a side cutter.

2) use wire gauge appropriate for the amps of the circuit. overkill leads to excessive bulk in a hurry. Wire ampacity depends on many things but stick to the schedule below and you will not have any meltdowns. All gauges noted are AWG

10 ga. 30 amps
12. 20
14. 15
16. 12
18. 10
20. 7.5
22. 5
24. 3


3) try to stay with conventional wire colors, especially for hot and ground.

4) a wire number or color remains the same if its function does not change. For ex. ground is ground everywhere and should be the same number or color everywhere. A wire number or color does not change passing thru an inactive component such as a bullet interconnect or junction block.

5) buying a spool of wire with a trace color can be expensive and aggravating if you need only 2 feet. You can stay with primary colors by marking the terminal ends of the wire with a contrasting color ring of electrical tape. For example, you can have green only, green w/ white tape, green w/ yellow tape, etc

6) use crimp on terminals where possible. use an internal lock washer to bite thru paint or lock screw connections.

7) I have never found wire markers or tape that would not flag over time. Flagging is a marker un-raveling and sticking out off the wire like a flag in the breeze. The only absolutely positive way I know to prevent flagging is to place a sleeve of transparent heat shrink tubing over the marker and shrink it down. Cut your sleeves with a paper shear or exacto knife and use a gauge to get the length consistent. Cutting with side cutters will give you random lengths and off square cuts. Am I too picky? I know you want to be proud of your work.....we say here in Texas "make it look soes you meant it to be thet way!" .

8.) The best way to make a complete harness is to first make a nail board. The time spent will be paid back when you built it and will result in a professionally looking product. Use a string to estimate the length of branch break-outs, allowing for bends and curves. Give yourself plenty of wire to make final terminations.

9) when you are ready to bundle up the harness, you can use either electrical tape or heat shrink tubing. If you opt for tubing, first electrical tape up the break-outs about 2 inches each side, as the tubing can only reach to the branch. If you use tape only, use a short sleeve of heat shrink tubing to prevent the tape ends from flagging.

10) remember.....someone on this forum wrote "patience is the best tool in your tool box". Probably the most poignant words written herein, and ever to be written. Keep repeating it when you feel the urge to rush.

Good luck. Send us pics

Slick
 
Slick,
Great comments! Yes I am still alive and should be healthy enough to get back to work on my Negative groend project. Will shoot you a PM today!
 
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