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2014,961. Only got 2700 miles on it. Had it for a couple of years but never rode it. (Moving house,retiring etc). Put it on the road 5 or 6 weeks ago. Got it motd. Bike is minted. Out for a run in the sunshine. Heading home. Downhill, 20 to 25 mph. Dropped a gear and then a thump/clunk. I pulled in the clutch and the bike died. No gears and no start. First British bike owned. I've got loads of Japs and Italians. Never had anything like this. Anyone any ideas?
 
What does “no start” mean?

Does the engine turn over normally but not start? Or does the start motor sound jammed? Or does it turn over and sound like a cement mixer full of scrap metal? Or is everything totally dead and nothing at all happens when you push the button? Or...?
 
Bike has run ok since I got it on the road,noisy,but ok. Got the charger on the battery. All charged ok but pressing the starter all I get is clicking,like a low/dead battery. Pull clutch in and gears not engaging. No I didn't know the gearbox had its own oil supply but no oil lights have lit up. As I said always had Jap or Italian. How easy is it to lift the engine out? Lol.
Somebody mentioned sprag clutch,clutch springs etc. Methinks I'm gonna find out about owning a Brit bike.
 
KEANO said:
Pull clutch in and gears not engaging. No I didn't know the gearbox had its own oil supply but no oil lights have lit up. As I said always had Jap or Italian.
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Clicking sound from started normally indicates low battery.
If the starter bendix has failed, you would hear the starter motor spin up but not engage the starter ring gear.

The gearbox has no oil pump, it uses splash lubrication, so no oil pressure switch to light up if oil is low.
There is an oil level bolt that you remove on the right side crankcase to check the tranny oil level.

Is the motor turning freely?
Is the transmission in neutral or stuck in gear?
 
Bikes in neutral but will have to see if the motor turns over freely. Only happened yesterday and was at a classic bike show today. Couldn't find anyone that knew about the 961.
I'll be on it tomorrow. Hopefully not too much damage....fingers crossed.
 
KEANO said:
Bikes in neutral but will have to see if the motor turns over freely. Only happened yesterday and was at a classic bike show today. Couldn't find anyone that knew about the 961.
I'll be on it tomorrow. Hopefully not too much damage....fingers crossed.
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Hi,
I was also at the Ayr classic show today. My son and I have 3 961 and another on order and therefore considerable experience with them!!!!!!! sources of parts, etc.
We are in the caravan club site in Ary ( for the bike show).
If you want help or to discuss ring 07482374636.
I also live on the Scottish West Coast. Regards, fultonrn.
 
Cheers Fultonrn.I,ll be in contact soon. In fact if you're ever passing Route 78 in West Kilbride I,ll be in there tomorrow in the back shop.
Sounds like you could the man to talk to.
 
Drained my gear box about 600 miles after the "dealership" said they changed all my fluids. Engine fluid was clear, fresh and to the mark, tranny had 4oz. of sludge. Should have about 40. I really have problems with a dealership that sells Triumph, Ducati, Beepers, KTM, Aprilia and no longer Norton not knowing how to change tranny oil. As a result, I have damage to third gear. Lesson. Change your own.
 
Could be the ring gear. Seen that a few times. This is why we pin them when we rebuild the engines. Pull primary cover off. You’ll know right away. See my manuals on CNW site.
 

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