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Lets talk lids.

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Related Discussions' started by coomo, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. coomo

    coomo VIP MEMBER

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    Considering buying a Full face.Presently have an open face Bell, which is comfortable.However, I miss the emotional security of a full face.
    Scanning Ebay and the like.I see a huge discrepancy of prices and specs.
    I get it if you want a brand tied to Rossi, Marquez etc youll pay a premium.However the latest carbons, vary from £800 down to 250ish for a Premier.30 years ago,Premier were at top of the game.(I presume now made in far east)
    i realise most have good safety ratings.However,do the top priced lids, offer anything more in the way of protection that lesser priced ones.Im kinda skeptical thesedays.Anyone in the industry, that can offer any insights?
     
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  3. coomo

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    Done that.Like to see Snell ratings too listed there, is they are relevant.Back in the day, Bell always had a Snell rating.However, im sure they are not USA made or even owned anymore.
     
  4. Craig

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    There are some newer to motorcycle helmet technologies just coming on market , suggest you google to see what available now and very soon ... snell and dot? are trusted ratings across the industry , with big changes coming in all head gear ...
     
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  5. Eljahara

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    The advice that is always given is: whatever your budget, spend the greatest amount you can afford on your helmet. Best value is to go for last seasons colours and features and save yourself a bundle. Sportsbikeshop and helmet city do the best discounted ranges. The usual suspects are given good reviews for a reason - Arai, Shoei, AGV, Bell, HJC, Shark, Roof... in the same sort of price range it is really more about fit than additional features like vents or spoilers.
    Hands, arms legs can be fixed, your head can’t so don’t put it in a £50 bargain basement helmet
    John
     
  6. gortnipper

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    Good fit is essential. Go to the shop and wear it around for 15 min. If it is uncomfortable at all there, you wont want to wear it on the road.

    Pinlock systems work great!
     
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  7. ashman

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    Best advice is go to a motorcycle acceroury shop that sells a big range of helmet and try different brands on, getting the fit right is as important as the brand, one brand won't fit the same as another brand and everyones head shape is different, so being able to try different helmets on is very important, you can't do that buying online and a good chance of getting it wrong, fitting is very important.

    Ashley
     
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  8. alan hodge

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    +2 on trying it on first I got an AGV Rossi Replica online it was listed as L but was really more like an M took some of the cheek padding out and trimmed with xacto knife fits better now
     
  9. Eljahara

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    Totally agree with trying for fit - if you can’t get to a large stockist, those I mentioned have large stores as well as bikestop in Stevenage, there is the bike show at the East of England show ground coming up on the weekend of 19/20 May and many retailers have stalls with helmets which are much cheaper than in the stores but they are usually high end models
    Would avoid eBay as “unused” boxed helmets could still have been dropped or may be faulty in some way, definitely go for the security of an established retailer.
    John
     
  10. storm42

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    I bought one of these in the link, It is lighter than my Aria RX7, comes with a spare (black) visor which is £70 and a pair of sunglasses. For me it is the best helmet I have had but we are all different so like everyone says trying one on is a must.

    The paint job isn't my taste but at that price a couple of stickers could sort that out.

    I think the Zarco one might be cheaper, if it is the same lid.

    https://www.megamotorcyclestore.co.uk/shark-race-r-pro-jorge-lorenzo-monster-austrian-gp-replica/
     
  11. gortnipper

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    High praise, me thinks. My RX7 is the best helmet I have ever used, and I had dozens and dozens of helmets come my way in the 90s.
     
  12. t ingermanson

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    Bell is in fact still an American company. Owned by Vista Sports, and headquartered in Scotts Valley, California. They are right down the road from me and I know many people that work there. Good people, good helmets -- if they fit your head well. I've got a carbon Star and it's a very nice helmet. The visor was a bit fiddly to get used to, but haven't had a problem with it since figuring it out.

    They are not made in the USA, but I doubt many, if any, helmets are made outside China. They are the people who make things now. Just how it is. Asian made does not mean it's of inferior quality. The quality is up to those who are designing, spec'ing, and QC-ing the helmets. A good or poor design would be the same, no matter where it was produced.
     
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  13. t ingermanson

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    Oh yea, the Bell Star has the DOT rating (duh), M2015 Snell rating, and also has the recently adopted MIPS system, which is a system (owned by the MIPS company) that creates a slip plane between the shell, and the padding and retention. It greatly reduces the rotational force when your head hits something tangentially. It really is the next level in protection by actively dissipating energy in an angled impact.
     
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  14. Tornado

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    Not yet mentioned but have heard reports of knock off helmets on the market, mimicking popular makes but lacking quality...be sure to buy only from reputable dealers.
    A proper dealer will know all the proper fitments and model variations/customiziablty (some have cheek pad size interchangeability).
     
  15. Danno

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    I bought a Schuberth C3 Pro a couple of years ago. Salesman talked me into getting a size smaller than I usually wear. Could only wear it halfway home from Barber Vintage Fest because it gave me an ice-cream headache, but since it's been broken in, it fits well. I've worn Shoei's for years, the last one a Qwest, which was quiet but not as quiet as the C3. Also have an Arai Corsair, my second, which is light and very high quality, but is noisy by comparison. I had a Shoei modular several years ago and the C3 reminded me of how convenient a flip-face is. I have an AGV Classic open-face, but rarely use it. Also a Fly Paradigm, which has a very nice interior but cheapo graphics. It's noisier than the Arai.
     
  16. Craig

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    Never tried the Schuberth , once I got away from cheap helmets , found Shoei fit my head , Qwest was/is maybe my fave ... picked up a Shoei RF-RS last fall only had it out twice , it maybe better than Qwest definitely quieter and more air movement plus it came with the pinloc thing which worked well both times ,we will see , also a Bell500 open face , only stand it for a run down our hill for coffee .... I stay away from the flip ups , I smoke , flip up would be too convenient for more smokes than I should .... lame ,I know but after almost 50 yrs of the habit got to try and fight it a little
     
  17. coomo

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    Visited the "Bike Shed" In London.The only dealer who had both Bell & AGV,retro lids.After trying on both, it was no contest.The fit of the AGV for me, was a no brainer.
     

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  18. Craig

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    They do make a nice bug stopper !
     

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