- Jun 30, 2012
Do the Lansdowne Cup road races still happen in the UK. It would be a shame if that class was allowed to die. Perhaps it should be expanded and improved ?
First - front brale - a single disc brake or a drum , should be permitted.Yes it still runs and is extremely popular.
I’m intrigued as to how you might suggest improving it?
Yes you’re right, we do dissegaree.Nigel, there is one thing on which I disagree with you. It is the need for more horsepower. If you corner faster, you are quicker as you enter the next straight, so you do not need as much power to get to the next corner quicker. You could fit megaphones to your exhaust pipes and get more powerr, and you would probably lap slower because of what the bike does in corners. I have had that experience.
As Chris has already stated, the Lansdowne has a way of allowing all of the above, and then using a points system to allow ‘apples with apples’ competition. Thus it allows totally original historic pieces to be on the track with modern replicas, all at the same time, in a fair way. In other words, they’re way ahead of you mate !Why would you buy a Molnar Manx or a Summerfirld G50, if you could only use it in one race class ? I would love to race in the Lansdowne. It would be cheaper to buy a 300cc MotoGP spec. bike.
In a race class for 500cc four-stroke singles, it would be easy to build a bike which would keep up, the rest depends on rider skills.
I know why people do not use Jawa speedway motors - stupid rules that rqquire the bikes to look historic. It is impossible to re-creaste history. People fanatasise aboutwhat road racing was like - however I wass there when it happened from 1954 onwards.
I had always thought of a race bike as a packageYes you’re right, we do dissegaree.
You seem to think that power and handling are mutually exclusive and you need to choose one or the other.
I say that’s wrong. The fastest bike around a track is the one that achieves the best combined effect of both.
To make the point, take a winking race bike and ask if it would be faster if you reduced the power. It’s not usually going to happen.
It’s as simple as that IMO.
With most race bikes, you never have enough power, so you need to enter the straights faster. When you have a lot of top end power, your bike needs to be very stable in corners and you usually cannot accelerate hard while you are in the corner. If you watch MotoGP, there is usually a procession in the corners, nobody has any advantage, so it becomes a power game. With old bikes, there is advantage if you can accelerate hard from beginning to end in corners. The handling requirements change to suit the bike's power delivery and the size of the circuit.I had always thought of a race bike as a package
The best handling
The best power
Best braking etc
And a bike that holds together be it modern or classic
He did say bevel Ducati.Surely the whole point of road racing is to develop your motorcycle and improve your skills in riding it ?
If you don't build and improve your own motorcycle, you miss out on half the fun.
The trouble is to compete and prove you are good, you need to be able to measure yourself against others who have similar obstacles.
Everybody does this Al. In every class.
And no! you wouldnt scare anyone on a modern Ducati with your Commando. We told you this when we shared the lap times, last time you stated this.
Superbike! Wow fantasy time.