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Kickstartermagic, So how does this work?

Discussion in 'General Classic Motorcycle Discussion' started by speirmoor, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. speirmoor

    speirmoor VIP MEMBER

    Apr 11, 2010
    This showed up in my Email earlier today. Check it out if you havent seen it already
  2. Danno


    Feb 7, 2010
    If that kid would have put the Kickmagic cylinder and hardware in his back pocket, he would have been heavy enough to kick it over on his own.

    Also noticed the kick lever stayed down after starting. Guess you have to put it back by hand?
  3. grandpaul

    grandpaul VIP MEMBER

    Jan 15, 2008
    Those turkeys used my copyright drawing of a Bonneville...

    EDIT: The guy made it quite right (see reply below)
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2018
  4. kommando


    May 7, 2005
    Looks like they are using a single action cylinder instead of double, a double would use more air but you would get the lever returning.
  5. grandpaul

    grandpaul VIP MEMBER

    Jan 15, 2008
    I think these folks are at least reasonable people; the guy wrote back right away wanting to do the right thing to continue to use the drawing.

    Yes, a double-acting cylinder would be a better component.

    It would appear that all components considered (weight, plumbing, remote bottle, need to re-charge), at advertised price point, that this is a good bit more fiddly, but about a grand cheaper than the only other options out there (and those are not readily available, maybe not at all)
  6. grandpaul

    grandpaul VIP MEMBER

    Jan 15, 2008
    The guy says the kicker returns to upright after a 5-second timeout.
  7. ashman


    Jul 11, 2010
    I find Triumphs to be easy kickers anyway, I could kick all my old Triumphs bare foot, they are not like Nortons to kick over, I know plenty of slim light weight girls who have no troubles kicking their old Bonnies over.

  8. oldbeezer

    oldbeezer VIP MEMBER

    Nov 2, 2017
    sure wouldn't want my leg, foot, ankle whatever in the wrong place when that thing decides to return!
  9. classicbikevt


    Jan 13, 2014
    Evening Gentlemen. Jack Manning here at CBE. First, reiterating apologies to PZ . He contacted me and we straightened out the infringement per his note above pretty quickly I think. We are pretty straight-laced with that sort of stuff and are very sorry the rabbit got out of the hat on that one.

    And, yes, it is a double acting cylinder and it does return under its own power (the nominal kickstart spring). Pneumatic solenoid is a 3 way, normally closed, so the cylinder vents back to it. We keep the lever down for 5 seconds (the time is programmable in development) to handle any kickbacks as the cylinder acts an air cushion. The return is therefore a very orderly pssssttt of air and a controlled return, not a snap back. Obviously, still have a ways to go on the website to get the details sorted to be clear on how it works.

    Not much of a forum (of facebook, etc) guy, so if you have questions or comments, please feel free to contact us directly at Classic Bike or the new KickMagic site. If there is something on the forum I should address, just let us know. Thanks...Jack and Nick.
  10. 84ok


    Aug 10, 2014
  11. nortonmews


    Nov 20, 2015

    Novel / innovative idea but this achieves the same end:

    No connection to the company.

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