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JPN Colour Scheme

Discussion in 'Norton Commando Motorcycles (Classic)' started by Leonc, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. Leonc

    Leonc

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    I will be re-painting my Mk3 roadster shortly and will be looking for modern colour codes to use, taking it from black and silver to John Player colours.
    Has anyone been through this exercise recently and can quote modern codes that I can use at the paint shop, and that they were happy with the final results?
    If I need to I can make an educated guess, but any experiences or input would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. gortnipper

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  3. kommando

    kommando

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    I got in my files

    Ford Diamond White
    Red was BMW Zanzibar (Zinnoberrot ?)
    Vauxhall Atlantic blue
     
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  4. Fast Eddie

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    Go Leonc, that colour scheme is SO cool on a Roadster...
     
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  5. dynodave

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    Yes I did this exercise long time ago (thanks MichealB) but don't have color codes here in the USA. Very happy with results however my decals are for 750 Commando

    06-3504-163 oil tank cover
    called "white"
    but really white/blue/red + 06-6388 gold

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  6. YING

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    Leone
    I have the Napa Auto Parts numbers if you are still looking
    Mike Yingling
     
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  7. nortriubuell

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    IMO, I wouldn't bother with all the "legwork" you may expend. Just call Brent (forum member here) ... and have him do it. Then you KNOW you will NOT be disappointed. Period. Save yourself some possible grief.

    https://vintage-vendor.com/
     
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  8. dynodave

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    Any chance of posting them here?
     
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  9. Fast Eddie

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    The trouble with this paint scheme is that you see so many with droopy lines.

    I would have thought the best way to get the best job would entail leaving the bike with the painter so he can mask for the lines with the tank and side panels in situ.

    I’ve never done it, jus’ think in’ outloud.
     
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  10. Fast Eddie

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    I collected some good pics of original tins for this paint job a while back, might help some...


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  11. joe czech

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    not sure what you mean by droopy lines, but here's a pic of what is supposed to be a "crate" find commando. note the lines on the tank. they are not parallel to the bottom edge of the tank, but appear to follow the chrome trim on the seat, and the side cover appears to run parallel to the ground. BTW, the guy that laid out the side cover must have had one pint too many - :D. I have seen photos of other originals, and they all follow that same layout. many repaints I've seen show the paint stripe parallel the the bottom edge of the tank.

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  12. dynodave

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    In my 40+ years with MG, Lotus and nortons I have always painted my own. Except 2 most recently, a club friend body shop professional did two tanks and one pair of side covers for free. Otherwise a few hundred $ for paint supplies and chemicals. So at least the side cover commando decals are not "going up hill" LOL like many high buck $$$professional$$$ (not norton savy) painters do.
     
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  13. Moto55UK

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    in the joe czech picture is that Eddy lawson?
     
  14. kommando

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    Yes
     
  15. Fast Eddie

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    Joe: “ note the lines on the tank. they are not parallel to the bottom edge of the tank”

    That’s basically what I mean Joe. If lines are painted to align with the tank they look wrong when you stand back and look at the bike. Ditto the side panels, they need to align with the top of the Z plate to look right.

    Obviously the factory would have had stencils etc to ensure things were done right in the paint shop. But how do you know if your painter / restorer has this same info 45 years later? It’d be a bummer to find out the he hasn’t on the day you bolted on your shiny tins!

    If you painter can assure you that he knows his shit then fine, but if in doubt, I reckon the best approach would be to let him paint the base coat etc. Take the bike to him, mount the tinware, and let him mark it up, mask it, etc. Then remove the tins for finishing off.

    That’s where I was going with mine. But then I decided to leave blue instead !
     
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  16. EstuaryBoy

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    Would a: 'Crate find' have run peashooters with a balance pipe? Just asking...
     
  17. MichaelB

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    Yes.. that's a Mark 2.
    The 2A would have Bean cans..


    What's interestesting to me is the lack of grab bar.
     
  18. htown16

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    My rattle can paint job. Paint was Duplicolor from Autozone. Topped with SprayMax 2k clear. If you're interested I will check for the codes as I still have a can of each. As noted tank lines are not parallel with tank bottom but are parallel with ground and match base of seat. The side covers were installed and then the lines marked with a level with bike sitting on wheels. Always do that to install sidecover decals.
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  19. joe czech

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    same here - I was thinking about a JPN colors repaint on mine, but my original paint, although showing it's age, still looks fairly decent for 45 year old lacquer. didn't have the heart to take paint stripper to it. so, CAR it stays... ;)

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  20. MichaelB

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    That looks great! Be almost criminal to strip it.
    Original paint jobs are becoming less and less.
     
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