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Have Beautiful Commando To Sell

Discussion in 'For Sale' started by Brian Carroll, Jun 24, 2019.

  1. Brian Carroll

    Brian Carroll

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    Hi Guys; I'm new here and first and foremost do not want to break any rules. I do have a gorgeous Commando 750 Dunstall to sell and was hoping for advice on where would be best to post it. Would be interested in your opinions on value as well. Bike is in CT and bike runs as good as she looks. I'd like to attach pics but am not seeing the usual way to attach pics I have saved in my files. Thanks in advance. Brian

    think I just figured pics out:

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  2. NPeteN

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    Hi Brian,
    Nice bike, I believe I linked your bike here way back when I first stumbled upon it on Craigslist.
    Don't think you've broken any rules this far...
     
  3. Craig

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    Once the drooling is over you should hear lots from members on here , very nice bike , good luck ! .... Jerry has a classified site for bikes like yours , check it out ....
     
  4. Brian Carroll

    Brian Carroll

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    Where can I find the classified site you mention? Thank you!
     
  5. Craig

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  6. Brian Carroll

    Brian Carroll

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    @NPeteN: Thank you for moving my post to the correct forum.

    @Craig: Thank you sir!

    Here's the ad that belongs with the pictures of this bike:

    Up for sale is this Dunstall Norton Commando 750 in superb condition. This bike is just out of a most impressive collection and has been looked after by one of CT/NY’s premier m/c mechanics. This bike features Dunstall fairing and seat, slim-line tank (yes, coated), drum brakes, swept back pipes, DB silencers, TT100 tires, new clutch and rear foot rests.There is 45k miles on the odometer. The bike runs perfectly and looks simply amazing. There was in the neighborhood of $12,500 spent on this project, many receipts are available.

    Motorcycle season is here; don’t miss this opportunity to be riding in the absolutely best classic style or add this wonderful machine to your collection.

    Price is $10,250 OBO

    I am easy to work with and would be happy to assist with shipping (your responsibility) or you are quite welcome to pick the bike up in person.

    Thanks for having a look and feel free to call with any questions at two——03—-/ / / six71,““`sixtwo26 brian

    P.S. Also available are a Toaster Tank BMW 50/5, a BMW R65, a Honda Valkyrie tourer, a Bultaco 360 dirt, and a Yamaha XS650 cafe/flat tracker all from the same collection. Those will be listed soon – all inquiries welcome.
     
  7. Brian Carroll

    Brian Carroll

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    hey guys; can you please comment whether in your opinion I am in the right price range at $10,250 for this m/c to sell? Which is the entire point, after all... ;-)

    Thanks!
     
  8. grandpaul

    grandpaul VIP MEMBER

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    I believe it to be a fair asking price, but perhaps remain open to reasonable offers...
     
  9. o0norton0o

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    You're asking a bunch of people who all own commandos if they think commandos in general are valuable. I think more than most people, we value them higher than someone who might buy a commando if the price is right to add to their stable of bikes..

    WTBS, $10,250. is absolutely a more than fair price for well sorted mechanically and cosmetically excellent commando. (but as I said, I'm biased)
     
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  10. Time Warp

    Time Warp .......back to the 70's. VIP MEMBER

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    You can ask any price you like but to me, more importantly ,talk means little, shiny paint jobs mean little, the classic bike world is awash with pigs with lipstick with high asking prices, not that I am implying this is one of those.

    Receipts for what ?
    What has been done to it mechanically ?
    The better the sales presentation the higher the reality of a good return price wise otherwise it is just another bike that is said to be 'great.
    If it has been rebuilt from a bare frame up, a photo journal says more then many words. (imho)

    Good luck with the sale, I think based on a few pictures, having the Dunstall body bits (which narrows the buyer market) and 45000 miles on the clock, US$8200.
     
  11. Fast Eddie

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    I don’t wish to sound negative here, but, unless it is a ‘genuine Dunstall’ it is basically ‘only’ a Commando Cafe Racer.

    Ascertaining market value is remarkably easy these days (whether or not we’re happy with it is another matter entirely). Put it on a well known auction site and see how far the bidding goes. To a very large extent, that will establish its current market value.
     
  12. Brian Carroll

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    Guys, thanks very much for the candor. I agree with all of your opinions aside from still hoping to get a bit north of $8200ish. Will get the specific details from my dear English pal who is the master mechanic I referred to in the ad copy in order to discern porcine lip gloss from meaningful mechanicals. ;-)

    Then will go from there.

    I did post on Jerry's site, ebay, craigslist, a couple classic fb forums, and here.

    Any suggestions for any other good places to post?

    thanks again for your helpful suggestions.

    brian
     
  13. Craig

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    "Bring a trailer dot com" seems to get some good prices for Vintage bikes , also some not so good , take a look @ .... bringatrailer.com
     
  14. Time Warp

    Time Warp .......back to the 70's. VIP MEMBER

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    Brian US$8200 (and I am in Australia) was a, here is a picture what do you think it is worth reply.
    With the right presentation you should get plenty more if it strikes the right cord with someone out there in buyer land.
     
  15. Brian Carroll

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    Thanks a lot for the suggestions/opinions, very helpful indeed.

    I actually did contact BaT and they said they would like to run the bike on auction, however, at no reserve, which I'm unwilling to roll the dice on at this time but that may change. I have a few other bikes in addition to this Commando that need to find new homes, as well, a couple Ducatis, a Bultaco, BMW and a Yamaha XS650 so I will get even busier beating the vintage m/c bushes.

    All of your input is much appreciated and if any other thoughts come to anyone's mind, please, by all means, kindly let me know.

    best,
    brian
     
  16. dave M

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    Brian, I don’t want to put down what looks like a very nice bike but find myself agreeing with Fast Eddie about the description, most of the cafe racer parts on this bike do not appear to be Dunstall, the fairing is a Rickman style and the seat is a generic 60s cafe racer style, rearsets seem to be production racer and the swept back pipes are also generic 60s style. The tank is of a style often offered for sale as a Dunstall, but seldom if ever seen on a Dunstall Commando in period. If you do a Google search for Dunstall Commando you will find that a typical example looks quite different from this. Dunstall sold many more bolt on accessories than they ever sold bikes, consequently not every bike with stickers and some fibreglass bodywork can realistically be described as a Dunstall. I myself have one with the correct tank, seat, fairing, clip-ons, rear-sets and a hot rod engine - not Dunstall but quicker than standard. I describe mine as a ‘Dunstall Replica’ as it started life as a humble Roadster.
     
  17. Brian Carroll

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    dave M, thank you for another helpful response. Rep is everything to me so trying to get everything right does matter. Here's what I have been told by my good friend who is the mechanic who did the work on this bike. The bike did not ever go to Paul Dunstall's shop for his typical engine mods, etc. However, he says it was not at all unusual for commando owners to put on some genuine Dunstall accessories and mark their bikes "Dunstall". This from his personal first-hand memories of what was going on outside London in the 70's - early 80's.

    This particular bike has a genuine Dunstall fairing and front fender, the seat is genuine Dunstall, as well but was cut for better aesthetics and I don't recall the exact mod he did but there was some cleanup done at the rear fender also for better look. The swept back pipes are indeed decent aftermarket. The fuel tank iirc is a "Slim-line Legend" if that makes sense. I will double check on the rear sets.

    Does what I'm pointing out above sound right?

    btw, it looks like a BaT listing may well be getting put together.

    thanks very much to all for your kind input.

    brian
     
  18. kommando

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    If it was not sold by Norton direct to Dunstall and also has never been in the Dunstall shop then its a Norton with some Dunstall parts IMO. What people called their bikes back when both Norton and Dunstall were around is academic, BSA Clippers with alloy engines were called Gold Stars back then too, but they are not Gold Stars today.
     
  19. dave M

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    Brian, I wouldn't have even commented on this, as it can often come across as being overly pedantic when people nit-pick on what is actually a nice looking bike and I'm sure the lucky buyer will be happy with it, but your openness and willingness to get the description right has encouraged me to comment. Paul Dunstall had quite a different approach to the Featherbed framed bikes and to the later Commando models. Your bike has a number of elements that were more common on Featherbed-based cafe racers and these include the tank and seat - Slimline normally refers to later featherbed frames that were narrower in the seat area than the first iterations which are commonly known as Widelines. If you buy a tank and or a seat for a Featherbed frame you have to identify which one it is as the parts from one will not fit the other too well. The seat I am sure is not Dunstall, it looks like one of the aftermarket seats fitted to many Tritons of the period, likewise the fairing, the Dunstall fairing has a built in dashboard where the instruments are mounted and does not have a chrome rim on the headlight, it is also a different shape to the one that you have fitted. The original Dunstall front mudguards were slimmer than the one you have fitted and were contoured around the fork leg and held on with a hose-clamp (quite a lot of the Dunstall stuff was not that well made). I actually think the only Dunstall thing on the bike are the decals on the side panels. If you do a quick Google images search for Dunstall Norton you will see what I am referring to.

    The worry with your bike is that if you misdescribe it and a prospective purchaser has some knowledge or does a bit or research they can soon start to pick holes in the machine and the incorrect description could call into doubt all of the good things about it. I would consider describing it as 'a period cafe racer'. To my eyes, with it's swept back pipes and old style tank and seat it looks like a nice homage to the cafe racers of yesteryear that you see in period photos of The Ace Cafe.

    Good luck with this, it is a fine looking machine.
     
  20. NPeteN

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    "in the style of"

    The rest of the bike speaks for itself.
     

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