Handlebar Change

3Brits · Jul 24, 2016

I want to change my recently purchased '75 MkIII handle bars from the low (European?) ones it came with to the higher (1046 - Western?) ones but have found that all my non-original switch wiring (both sides) is too to short. Is there I way to lengthen everything without running all new wiring or trying to find original switches?
Jack

L.A.B. · Jul 24, 2016

Edit: When you say "non-original switch wiring" do you mean non-original switches or just the wiring?

kommando · Jul 24, 2016

If as you say the switches are non original and wires too short then replacement switches with longer wires or new wires on your current switches are your only choices. Adding short extensions adds extra joints to go wrong.

Madnorton · Jul 24, 2016

Whats wrong with the european bars on the MK3, assuming they are original, they should look like the western bars and not like the early 'nearly flat' style of european bars, confusing I know.

Having just removed a set of western bars from my project the tails should be long enough to reach the main loom connectors as can been in the top phot below. These bars are swept back and stick out further than the late european bars and look ridiculous in my opinion. The bottom phot doesn't show it well, but has the european bars.

Image edit - L.A.B.

maylar · Jul 24, 2016

3Brits said:
I want to change my recently purchased '75 MkIII handle bars from the low (European?) ones it came with to the higher (1046 - Western?) ones but have found that all my non-original switch wiring (both sides) is too to short. Is there I way to lengthen everything without running all new wiring or trying to find original switches?
Jack

Probably not. The junction block for wiring is under the tank and (at least on my 74) there's not enough slack to move it any farther forward. The factory switch wires were long enough to handle even the hi rider bars. You'll have to splice each wire I think.

L.A.B. · Jul 24, 2016

maylar said:
The junction block for wiring is under the tank and (at least on my 74)

The connections are inside the headlamp on the Mk3 and multi-pin plugs are used instead of the rubber block and bullet connectors.

maylar · Jul 24, 2016

L.A.B. said:
maylar said:

The junction block for wiring is under the tank and (at least on my 74)

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The connections are inside the headlamp on the Mk3 and multi-pin plugs are used instead of the rubber block and bullet connectors.

Well then.... guess I should avoid answering MKIII questions. Thanks for the correction.

jimbo · Jul 24, 2016

L.A.B. said:
maylar said:

The junction block for wiring is under the tank and (at least on my 74)

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The connections are inside the headlamp on the Mk3 and multi-pin plugs are used instead of the rubber block and bullet connectors.

The cheap white plastic connectors will give much trouble, better off replacing /removing them

L.A.B. · Jul 24, 2016

Madnorton said:
The bottom photo doesn't show it well, but has the european bars.

The Mk3 European 06-5748 bars appear to have 'grown' over the years (from 26" to 28"+), and the bars in your 2nd. photo seem wider than the original Mk3 Euro. 'bars.

Even AN sells 06-4887 as 06-5748.
https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-de ... n-06-4887-

Perhaps you can post a view from the seated position?

eskasteve · Jul 24, 2016

Splice some extra length wires onto the existing in a location that doesn't show. Don't want to offend the purists. If you can't hide your splice then run your new length through some shrink wrap making your own mini wiring loom. It's your bike, remember, and you are the only one that needs to be happy with your modifications. I have the lower Euro bars and my riding buddy has the higher US version. We both like how our bikes look and feel.

Madnorton · Jul 24, 2016

No hiding from LAB, their are small bat end weights that stick out about 1.5'' further than normal. Not sure they make any difference, they are made from alloy and fitted by the PO.

L.A.B. · Jul 24, 2016

Madnorton said:
No hiding from LAB, their are small bat end weights that stick out about 1.5'' further than normal. Not sure they make any difference, they are made from alloy and fitted by the PO.

I don't think it's the end weights.

acotrel · Jul 24, 2016

Many years ago I had high bars on a Triumph 650 road bike. The rear chain came off and locked the back wheel as I rounded a corner, and the bike went into a tank-slapper. That was the quickest I ever got launched off a motorcycle - I actually split the crash-helmet. When that happens there is a lot of energy transmitted through the handle bars.

Beach · Jul 24, 2016

splice and shrink wrap

B+Bogus · Jul 24, 2016

L.A.B. said:
Madnorton said:

No hiding from LAB, their are small bat end weights that stick out about 1.5'' further than normal. Not sure they make any difference, they are made from alloy and fitted by the PO.

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I don't think it's the end weights.

Off-topic I know, but how on Earth is that air lever supposed to do anything beyond holding the cables in the 'air slides down' position?

Is now a good time to ask how long they continued to sell these after this particular (presumably) promo photo?

Torontonian · Jul 24, 2016

Yes that choke lever would have to be relocated/twisted a bit on the bars to allow clearance to run choke-slides up. I'll pay attention to this thread as The bars on my MK111 are a bit low for my liking. I have 2 pairs of original MK111 "Western" bars in storage that I will pull out and try to fit one this winter. They are quite wide but higher. The electrical hopefully will fit up.

L.A.B. · Jul 24, 2016

B+Bogus said:
Off-topic I know, but how on Earth is that air lever supposed to do anything beyond holding the cables in the 'air slides down' position?

Is now a good time to ask how long they continued to sell these after this particular (presumably) promo photo?

I think perhaps you are being just a touch overcritical as it probably was just a bike set up for a static photo session. :wink:

jimbo · Jul 24, 2016

L.A.B. said:
B+Bogus said:

Off-topic I know, but how on Earth is that air lever supposed to do anything beyond holding the cables in the 'air slides down' position?

Is now a good time to ask how long they continued to sell these after this particular (presumably) promo photo?

Click to expand...

I think perhaps you are being just a touch overcritical as it probably was just a bike set up for a static photo session. :wink:

and maybe its just a matter of "photo perspective" :shock:

B+Bogus · Jul 25, 2016

L.A.B. said:
B+Bogus said:

Off-topic I know, but how on Earth is that air lever supposed to do anything beyond holding the cables in the 'air slides down' position?

Is now a good time to ask how long they continued to sell these after this particular (presumably) promo photo?

Click to expand...

I think perhaps you are being just a touch overcritical as it probably was just a bike set up for a static photo session. :wink:

Absolutely!
Wasn't being entirely serious, just sayin'

L.A.B. · Jul 25, 2016

B+Bogus said:
L.A.B. said:

I think perhaps you are being just a touch overcritical as it probably was just a bike set up for a static photo session. :wink:

Click to expand...

Absolutely!
Wasn't being entirely serious, just sayin'

I did wonder if you were actually being serious but I suppose I should've known better!

:wink:

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