Goodwood Revival

Goodwood Revival is usually live streamed on Youtube on the weekend at about the 15th September each year.
Are any of you guys competing in the Barry Sheene Memorial Trophy race ?

Riders confirmed at the moment. Nice selection of bikes Josh Brooks out on a Vincent. Ben Kingham is fast & builds a great bike. Lots of Velos which is great! but really looking forward to seeing Sam Rhodes & Bill Swallow out on the Rudge.

Race(s): 3 Barry Sheene Memorial Trophy - Part 1 - Race Status:

2 Ashby, Roger/English, Glen 1954 Triumph T110 Skipp, Roger
3 Clausen, Claus/Resch, Roland 1928 BMW R57 Compressor Clausen, Claus
4 Johnston, Lee/Pearce, Nick 1954 Norton Dominator Pearce, Nick
5 Hill, Tommy/Molnar, Andy 1952 Norton FAN Molnar, Andy
6 Cooper, Richard/Parrish, Steve 1953 Norton Manx Murray, Bernard
7 Fitchett, Duncan/McWilliams, Jeremy 1952 Norton Daytona Manx Barford, Susan
8 Clews, Sam/Hickman, Peter 1952 Norton Manx Clews, Andy
10 Grant, Mick/May, Jimmy 1953 Norton Manx May, Jimmy
11 Laverty, Eugene/Schwab, Herbert 1929 BMW R57 Supercharged Schwab, Herbert
12 Bain, Ian/Brogan, Steve 1952 Norton International Bain, Ian
14 Hann, Richard/McConnell, Billy 1954 Triton Thunderbird Hann, Richard
15 Plater, Steve/Walker, Patrick 1951 Vincent Lightning Walker, Annabel
16 Haydon, James/Hose, Michael 1953 Norton Manx Garbutt, Ian
17 Hillier, James/Thomas, George 1954 Matchless G80 CS Tonge, Stuart
18 Hutchinson, Ian/Perkin, Tony 1952 Velocette MSS 500 Perkin, Tony
20 Mainwaring-Smart, Woden-JAP Harding, Phil
Howie/Radokovich, Stefan
1954
22 Fabri, François 1949 Gilera San Remo Fabri, François
23 Rhodes, Sam/Swallow, Bill 1936 Velocette MT 500 Rhodes, Ivan
25 Farrall, Mike/Tinmouth, Jenny 1933 Rudge TTR Farrall, Elaine
32 Rushworth, Kevin/Simpson, Ian 1954 Triumph T110 Ace Classics
33 Cathcart, Alan/Folch-Rusinol Jnr, Norton Manx Folch-Rusinol Jnr, Joaquín
Joaquìn
1952
35 Bush, Keith/Cummins, Conor 1953 Norton Manx Bush, Keith
38 Hunt, Max/Smith, Bradley 1953 Triton 650 Smith, Gerald
45 McGuinness, John/Perez, Sebastian 1954 Norton Manx Perez, Sebastian
49 Costello, Maria/Gutsch, Sebastian 1937 BMW R5SS Gutsch, Sebastian
51 Duffus, Iain 1950 Vincent Comet Grey Flash Bunning, Derek
55 Brooks, Josh/Kingham, Ben 1954 Vincent Black Shadow BSK Speedworks
68 Russell, Michael/Rutter, Michael 1954 Velocette MSS Adams, Richard
78 Day, Levi/Russell, Gordon 1956 Gilera 500/4 GP Black Eagle Racing Team
105 Linsdell, Steve/Smart, Scott

That is so good ! I will be watching the live stream for 3 days.
We need a meeting like that in Australia. None of our historic stuff ever gets televised. As a result, enthusiasm for good things does not grow. We do not know the difference between value and price.

Watched the two races lastnight. Quite a few Norton's. Wonderful LeMans starts and rider swap outs.

It might be good if somebody created a development race class for 500cc four-stroke single cylinder motorcycles.
The best rules is no rules.

You might want to check out what actually already exists Al.

Here in the U.K. we have the Supermono series which is pretty much what you’re suggesting.

We also had Supermono in Australia. But the idiots did not impose a capacity limit. A 500cc Manx Norton is about as big as you can make a single cylinder motorcycle engine, and still get reliability. What was winning in Supormono were 630cc 4-valve Japanese motors. To win, you had to have one. But they all blew up. And now that race class does not exist.
Then we had a one-make race class for 883cc Harleys - that also no longer exists.
In Period 4 Historic racing, there is no capacity limit, and the CB750 Hondas which monopolise are 1100cc in capacity. So the class has dwindled.
It is because, most of our organisers are sidecar guys, who have never raced a solo, and the young guys who race solos don't know how to race.

I think British people in the UK have a different way of thinking. In Australia, we have become Yanks, and bigger is better. It is idiocy.
I never make a motor bigger to get more power. Most motors can be made to go much faster than their owners might imagine,,without making them bigger.
A CB750 Honda should go fast without making it bigger. But most guys could not ride a CR750.
With full race cams, a six speed close ratio box, methanol and four megaphones, a CB750 would be an absolute blur, in a straight line.
With the Seeley 850 on a tight circuit, Methanol-fuelled 1100cc CB750s are no problem. - They don't handle.

The only time I was really frightened on a race bike, I was riding a 250cc Ducati which had the lot done to it. It was like riding as kiddie's tricycle at 100 MPH. - There was nothing of it.

Hi Acotrel, yes the 250 Duck is very light , I was riding mine pretty fast at the IOM Jurby track in the wet and copped a 50mph crosswind gust , That was enough and i was glad to be waved off. Hope to do it again before I hit 80 , perhaps next year now I have a decent Van.

Your 250 ducati must have been a badly setup bike, I rode a 250 ducati 4 times around brands hatch, which is a riders circuit, the last time was on a Desomodronic 250, which was the fastest. There was nothing wrong with the handling- all the bikes were superb!

Bernhard said:

Your 250 ducati must have been a badly setup bike, I rode a 250 ducati 4 times around brands hatch, which is a riders circuit, the last time was on a Desomodronic 250, which was the fastest. There was nothing wrong with the handling- all the bikes were superb!

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There was nothing wrong with the handling. The bike was so light that I did not have the touch for it. I built a methanol-fuelled T250 Suzuki - it did not feel like that. My mates 650cc Triton has the motor a bit back and still feels positive, even though it steers neutral. I don't like that light airy feeling that happens with some bikes. I like the bike to feel strong and positive, even if it understeers.
That Parilla 250 production racer one of my mates raced probably handled extremely well, but it crashed everyone who ever rode it. All any of them ever knew about their crash, was they were picking themselves up off the road.
I think the Parilla 250 and the Ducati 250 had their origins in the 175cc Italian race class - improved to compete withe Mondial 250. The Mondial is what Mike Hailwood began his career with.

Not crashed mine yet. It handles well enough to leave Nortons up to 750 cc behind on the really twisty stuff . Watch out for the Rudge , It finished first a few years back when the weather was bad.

The 250 Ducati I rode was owned by Bob Brown. He got Kevin Magee through his crash and burn stage. I thought he was insane to play with Ducatis. He and my mate had done everything to that 250 Ducati, it was on methanol and had all the factory bits Bob could buy. When I rode it felt as though there was nothing of it, but it was extremely fast. Later on I raced av T250 Suzuki which was on methanol, it was much faster, but nowhere near as frightening as the Ducati. The steering on the 250 Ducati has that steep rake and small offset. It is the sort of thing you get accustomed to.
It is similar to coiparing a Featherbed to a Seeley. A Featherbed feels good when you don't know any better.