gas tank / new project...like I needed one.

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I stumbled into a garage sale the other day and made off with a '74 Commando for $500. It needed a battery and a few other things. I have a dude fixing it up. My question....It came with two tanks. Both are Roadster tanks. One is steel & the other fiberglass. Should I even mess with the fiberglass one?
 
500 bucks!!! You have to post pictures. On the fiberglass tank, use the steel tank for the bike and you could try and seal the fiberglass tank, but it could be a lot of trouble. I don't think they bring a lot of cash selling them and there have been numerous debates on this topic. Personally I'd put it on a shelf as a moto decoration.
 
There are people working on the problems. It involves taking the tank apart and putting it back together. To make it worth the effort it has to be a fine stock tank with good gel coat. If you have to paint the thing find metal first. They are only original once so saving a classic is worth the effort even nicer when you can still use it.
 
Wow $500 clams for a 74? You got ripped off. I believe it, I once bought a 67/68 Fastback all complete with two sets of Dunstall rearsets & extra stuff for $75.00. That was back in 1981 but still a great deal as is yours. I am thinking of sending a glass tank to this guy in Florida who claims to have solved the modern gas problems. fueltankservices.com but if I was you & the steel tank is solid I would use that.
 
Nice find, I have an old fiberglass tank laying around. I told my wife I wanted to be buried in it and I got the look. Pics please Phil
 
platinumsmith said:
I stumbled into a garage sale the other day and made off with a '74 Commando for $500. It needed a battery and a few other things. I have a dude fixing it up. My question....It came with two tanks. Both are Roadster tanks. One is steel & the other fiberglass. Should I even mess with the fiberglass one?

It is quite possible to line a GRP tank to resist pretty much any commonly available fuel, without needing to take the tank apart (this is almost as much work as making a new one out of the appropriate materials!).
However the main problem is that most people are taken in by the blatant nonsense, thats suggested by those selling various epoxy resins to do this job.

The thing that makes epoxy sealants into a pretty short term remedy for sealing a GRP tank, is the film thickness of slosh coated epoxy is never uniform, and this linked to the difficulty of proper mechanical abrasion of the inside of the damaged tank and vibration, means that failure is likely to occur quite quickly on bikes which are ridden regularly.

When an epoxy sealed tank has failed its common that fuel will have seeped behind the epoxy coating adjacent to where cracks have occurred, and as well as rotting the polyester resin the tank was made of, this will mean that sealing the tank a second time will mean failure happens almost immediately.

There has been some investigation into the use of a modified polysulphide material for use as a tank sealant, but this is very costly and not something I would imagine is likely to appeal to sellers of the less than ideal epoxy products who are making around about 400% profit on repackaged industrial resins!

However while epoxy sealers are certainly a long way from being ideal, it is possible to improve the next to useless standard products by bulking them out with suitable filler materials such as chopped GRP fibres, which tends to make the thin film coating a lot more durable and less susceptible to cracking.
 
So Carbonfiber are you saying that you believe the epoxy coatings are failing just due to poor prepwork? This is my feeling but I'm still not convinced. A friend has been using a polysulfide sealer on metal tanks with good results but he built a tumbling machine to use for cleaning and coating the tanks and will typicaly tumble a tank for 16 hours at differant angles with a cleaning solution and media followed by a day or two of drying with blowers and finally a coating and baking . The Polysulfide must be cured at 70 degrees for something like 48 hours. I haven't had him do my glass tank because test show the gas turns a golden color after being in the tank so Im worried about that. The epoxy coatings do not seem to do that so Im leaning towards them. I know this is a burnt out topic but I have a glass tank I really want to use so it still matters to me.
 
Well....actually it was $1,000., but we all know it's about to be the most expensive motorcycle I've ever owned. I'll figure out how to pics up.
 
platinumsmith said:
Well....actually it was $1,000., but we all know it's about to be the most expensive motorcycle I've ever owned. I'll figure out how to pics up.

You are still a theif :wink:

Jean
 
$1000? I thought I stole mine at $2300. You're right about it becoming the most expensive bike too.
 
Mine was FREE, it was in pices and a sad example of a chopper, but it was free, about $8000 ago.
 
I want to stumble onto a Commando for next to nothing.. All I ever find are god-awful choppers, and they're always $1600-$2500. At this point, I'm a pass on those. Too much money for something with a bunch of butched up parts. Need more to work with!
 
gtsun said:
So Carbonfiber are you saying that you believe the epoxy coatings are failing just due to poor prepwork? This is my feeling but I'm still not convinced. A friend has been using a polysulfide sealer on metal tanks with good results but he built a tumbling machine to use for cleaning and coating the tanks and will typicaly tumble a tank for 16 hours at differant angles with a cleaning solution and media followed by a day or two of drying with blowers and finally a coating and baking . The Polysulfide must be cured at 70 degrees for something like 48 hours. I haven't had him do my glass tank because test show the gas turns a golden color after being in the tank so Im worried about that. The epoxy coatings do not seem to do that so Im leaning towards them. I know this is a burnt out topic but I have a glass tank I really want to use so it still matters to me.


As soon as they come up with a flexible epoxy, then that will be ideal for use as a slosh coat tank sealer! Until that time epoxy sealers in GRP tanks without a suitable filler material as suggested earlier, can only be seen as a temporary measure.
 
That's a good deal for sure!! I did alright on my MK3 at 2500 bucks, but it's well on the way to becomming the most expensive bike for me too, but what the heck, they're just so darn good looking and fun to ride. i also got a fiberglass tank and a dented steel roadster tank with it. let me just say i'm gonna leave the glass one alone and I'm in work on cleaning up the steel one, just got new petcocks for it the other day. Cj
 
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