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Frame id plate

Discussion in 'Norton Commando Motorcycles (Classic)' started by Jerry Doe, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. Jerry Doe

    Jerry Doe Admin

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    Hello,

    We just moved to Colorado. Here is my dilema.

    I am having to get the VIN numbers inspected for the DMV here. On my 750 my friend stamped the frame id plate for me after i gave him the correct info from the DMV (a few years ago) as I did not have any stamps at the time. I never checked it before. I now come to find out the plate I put on was for a different bike. He accidentally sent me a plate for a different bike and neither of us noticed. I should have checked.

    I have another blank plate and am going to re-stamp it with the correct info and put it on. My question is: what is the best tool to cleanly remove the old plate without stripping the FE down. I am thinking a dremel and to carefully grind down the rivets. Anyone got a better idea?

    Thought i should ask,

    Thanks
     
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  2. Guido

    Guido

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    Don't know what a FE is but if you are trying to remove the rivets from the plate, cut a slot into the head and use a screw driver to remove them. Thats what I was told.
     
  3. marshg246

    marshg246 VIP MEMBER

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    I just use a set of sharp side cutters if I'm replacing the frame tag. Don't cut the rivets, just pinch them and pull while unscrewing. They are not rivets, they are hammer drive screws. If you're careful, you can reuse them.
     
  4. marshg246

    marshg246 VIP MEMBER

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    BTW, I order replacements from Andover Norton already stamped. You just tell them in your order what you want it to say. They do a great job of it.
     
  5. gortnipper

    gortnipper VIP MEMBER

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    I used a needle nose vice grips to pull them out, and they came out well though were destroyed in the process. They are spiral cut, so twist them out as you would a screw.

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  6. dave M

    dave M

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    I have always found the unmodified rivets almost impossible to grip effectively with vice grips, I protect the plate with masking tape and gently file a couple of flats on each one with a small file then they are easy to grip and twist out in an anti- clockwise direction.”
     
  7. Onder

    Onder

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    I found the original nail rivets to be tough to pull out. You can cut their heads off with a sharp small chisel but it
    will probably tear up the plate, which in your case you dont care.
    Once the head is off, take a pin punch and drive them through. The AN gold ones seem larger as they fill the holes
    quite well.
    Was worried about The Authorities asking questions about the brand new gold rivets and what subterfuge was afoot
    but since my 74 850 is now too old for MOT I escaped that worry.
    So I have the original plate on with new rivets.
     
  8. htown16

    htown16 VIP MEMBER

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    I've done it with out damaging the plate. Use an angle grinder to remove most of the head but leave a bit. Center punch this and use a drill bit the same size as the rivet to drill the center out. Once the outer part is off you can remove the plate. Use a punch to punch the remainer of the rivet into the tube.
     
  9. Jerry Doe

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  10. Onder

    Onder

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    Yes, I drilled them out a bit too. I see you nicked the edge just as I did! The new AN rivets filled the somewhat egged out holes
    and the heads are bigger and covered the damage.
     
  11. htown16

    htown16 VIP MEMBER

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    Yes, they can be drilled out but it's dang hard to get the bit started in the center of the rounded head. That's why I suggested grinding them down a bit first to get a flat surface before drilling.
     
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