Flex-Hone grit for cylinder honing

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That is the standard grit finish range on rehones, but there is controversy about wisdom to do this if bore is oval or barrel shape worn. My Trixie '72 just had a clean up hone done by machine shop, which left her more than idea piston/bore gap but with just stock type new pistons/rings she sealed up smokeless in a few minutes first start up and runs good, only smokes once in a while till head oil or wet sump clears out. I follow TotalSeal method of dry rings, but they sell a power and suggest wd40 as install 'lube' which is an insiders joke as that just flashes off on first ignition, but satisfies the un-thinkers its not a dry install.
Old chevy owners/builders used BonAmi powder as promised its never scratched anything.
 
I bought a flex hone for my re-ring project but ended up not using it. I got some 240 grit sandpaper and put in a 45 degree crosshatch by hand. Rings dry, deliberate breakin, switched back to synthetic oil at 1000 miles. Seems to have worked very well.
 
Not really worried about bore wear as the bike has only 6k on the clock. Liked what the Flex-Hone did with the Alfa, I guess I'll go there again. BTW, this company, BRM, has a lot of downloadable info on their site about the theories of metal removal.
 
I had an old 3 stone hone from years past and I just made a few passes through the barrel with that and only smoke I got was visible on my startup video, I didn't even see it until I saw the video. Still no smoke.

Dave
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There are a lot of different opinions on the "right" way to hone a cylinder. There's no "one size fits all." The requirements for modern high performance water-cooled engines are not the same as for our antiquated air-cooled iron cylinder bikes. Also depends a lot on the ring materials. In general, the coarser grits provide a faster break-in, good for a race engine, but also faster ring wear. The finer grits require a more careful break-in, but are reputed to give slower ring wear. The usual recommendation for old style iron rings with a chrome plated top ring (like most of the available Norton rings), is to finish with a fine stone (240 or 280 grit, sometimes 320 grit). The more modern ring finishes, like moly or ceramic, require much smoother cylinder finishes, but take almost no break-in time. You don't usually see them offered for Nortons.

FWIW, I usually finish a rebore with a conventional Sunnen style hone with 280 grit stones, and then run a 320 grit silicon carbide Flex-hone (ball hone) through for the final finish. Seems to work pretty well. That's with conventional iron rings with chrome top ring. In the rare occasion I use moly filled rings, I finish with a 500 grit conventional hone and then run a soft brush style plateau hone through for the final finish. If you're just looking to put a better finish on a cylinder for new rings, with no re-sizing, the 240 grit Flex-hone should work fine.

Ken
 
rx7171 said:
How about not honing at all, as long as cast iron rings not chrome.

http://www.snowvalley.20m.com/bikes/dnthone.htm

Bob
Interesting article. Like I said, lots of different opinions on the subject. I would note that no modern engine manufacturer (as far as I know) uses plain cast iron rings for the top ring. There's probably a good reason for that. On the other hand, most (but not all) Norton owners don't ride their bikes enough to worry about how long the rings last. I've used plain iron rings on race engines with no problems, but they don't have to last more than few thousand miles between overhauls.

Ken
 
That is an interesting article...now what about lapping valves?!!! Where is that argument presented?

Russ
 
So Ken, does it follow that cast iron rings don't wear out the bore as fast?
 
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