Yes , Lets focus on the Chain Wax and Why I am liking the Super Clean. The Chain Wax does a good job of coating the chain with that waxy coating , But it does not really lubricate it very well. My riding friend and I have had kinked links when using chain wax . And also when it slings off it can be horrible to clean off , especially in the counter sprocket area. I want the chain lube to lubricate , protect from rust etc. and to stay on the chain. I don't mind when the rim gets a little sling off, but when it wraps around to the tire I say no more. The Chain wax did not wrap around to the tire so here it is good. The Chain Wax can says you can use it for cables, that will be a mistake. Do not use it for cables , that wax is too hard ! The Super Clean stays on very well , actually lubricates the chain , and what little does come off can be cleaned up with a little bit of work. The other lubes just have a tendency to get on my rear tire and I cant have that. Do Not use Super Clean for Cables either ..