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Fancy headlight relay


http://www.culayer.com/Matchbox.htm

A bit spendy but a nice plug and play application.
 
Fancy headlight relay

Glad you posted this so putting title in text so i can search within forum again when i get to point of my special project light hook ups. Photo of it installed would be nice touch for us to view. I had to use 3 half size relays in headlamp shell to do the same job in past.
 
Dave,

Nice bit of kit, someone out there is thinking of old motor bikes! The price is not so bad after your purchased two standard relays in Australia.

Has anyone thought about using a relay to power up the electronic ignition with good solid power?

Thanks for sharing, imagine it would be sought after on early 70's Triumphs with flat back headlight shells?

Cheers Richard
 
FWIW two micro relays from Eastern beaver would also do the job and the pair would probably be roughly the same size (and less than half the price)...they have sockets available for them too
So far as I can tell they are electromechanical type relays (vs. solid state) so they should work with positive or negative ground

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Relays/relays.html

a relay probably would not be worth the trouble for electronic ignition, it does not pull nearly as much current as a headlight so the voltage drop through the wiring is much less
 
Oh yeah I relayed and 5 amp audio power filtered inline + a fuse for black box Boyer for = undetectable ignition 'improvement' but did take a bit of heat out of the kill button. Headlight relay kept the bars from feeling the real heat and putting more light ahead.
 
Well if the love of your life ain't worth a purpose made electric jewerly piece, then at least don't clutter her up with one inch size cubes. With a bit of searching can find 1/2 size 30 amp relyas, that are definitely easier to stuff behind headlight or other places.
 
I have used one of these in the commando for years, also in the missus trumpy, buy one at any automotive store.


Fancy headlight relay



the 68070 is a changover relay suitable for both high and low beam.
 
I am not trying to sound ignorant but when installing one of these relays,do you run a dedicated wire from the headlight
pole on ignition switch to the relay?
Mike
 
I just noticed the fancy relays are only for neg earth, positive earth is special order, ask fr pricing?

The Narva relays look the goods, how can you wire up the change over to perform the hi/lo beam?

Can you show us, I not great on electrical stuff!

Cheers Richard
 
stockie2 said:
I just noticed the fancy relays are only for neg earth, positive earth is special order, ask fr pricing?

The Narva relays look the goods, how can you wire up the change over to perform the hi/lo beam?

Can you show us, I not great on electrical stuff!

Cheers Richard

If you don't have good crimpers, wire, terminal lugs, some electrical experience, etc. an Eastern Beaver kit with micro relays might be a better bet than buying all the materials, tools, etc....they make positive and negative ground kits so the wire colors are correct,. Or if you do want to go DIY you can probably figure out how to do the wiring from their site and they also sell the micro relays and sockets separately at a decent price (I have no connection to EB, just like their products...I did have the tools and parts on hand so I wired my own HL relays on two of my bikes and they work well)

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/H4_Kits/h4_kits.html

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Relays/relays.html
 
The match box says negative ground only... See the photo near the bottom of their page. If anyone swapped to a negative ground? I'm interested in the details. I don't see that as an issue with the Narva micro relay.
 
Some relays have a built in diode across the coil so they are polarity sensitive. Sometimes you can open up the relay and nip the diode out. The diode is there to prevent an inductive voltage spike of opposite polarity when the field collapses. Probably not a big deal if being switched by a mechanical button - only a problem if switched by a solid state device.
 
As long as the case of the relay (if it's conductive) is not grounded, the polarity diode should not matter. Just make sure you hook it up right. Don't need a $50 relay, $5 is plenty.

Dave
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I have often thought or wished that someone here would photograph and walk us through the procedure for installing headlight & or horn relays in a Commando. I have good electrical tools can solder well etc etc & have basic understanding of bike electrics but for some reason even looking at the basic instructions I still feel a bit ify on exactly how to do it. I think it would be great if someone would photograph the proccess & explain it like " cut this wire here" connect it here" and so on and post it in our Tech section. It's such a great mod, anything that makes our lights better is invaluable. Anyone willing???
 
bluto said:
stockie2 said:
I just noticed the fancy relays are only for neg earth, positive earth is special order, ask fr pricing?

The Narva relays look the goods, how can you wire up the change over to perform the hi/lo beam?

Can you show us, I not great on electrical stuff!

Cheers Richard

If you don't have good crimpers, wire, terminal lugs, some electrical experience, etc. an Eastern Beaver kit with micro relays might be a better bet than buying all the materials, tools, etc....they make positive and negative ground kits so the wire colors are correct,. Or if you do want to go DIY you can probably figure out how to do the wiring from their site and they also sell the micro relays and sockets separately at a decent price (I have no connection to EB, just like their products...I did have the tools and parts on hand so I wired my own HL relays on two of my bikes and they work well)

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/H4_Kits/h4_kits.html

Hi…I will input here as well.
Like bluto stated; easternbeaver.com products are top notch. I got a kit for the Combat with 4 relays. Two relays for hi/ low beam on CIBIE halogen. One relay for horn and one for E/I. With hindsight I wouldn’t use it for Ignition as it draws low amps. But these are waterproof and individually fused. Nice setup for a reasonable price. I think I paid something like $80 for the 4 all wired with instructions. He even owned a Norton at one time. :wink:
Regards,
CNN
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Relays/relays.html
 
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