EMGO Spokes

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Never used them, however based on the info supplied or lack of it I would avoid.

What gauge are they, how many types of spoke within the 40 supplied (should be 4 sets of 10 the variations being length, head angle and offset ie how far the bend is away from the head) and what are the nipples made from (should be nickel plated brass.

There is a very good spoke maker in Taiwan, PM me and I will give you the contact details and the spoke specs to order. Best to get the nipples elsewhere as they do not do the right head size.
 
Cheers for the info , I have found a spoke and rim guy that stocks Devon blanks and can thread to suit , so I think I'll get them . Thanks for the reply. Is that spoke maker " Newson" ?
 
the Taiwan spokes will be most likely be cut thread nipples , if you purchase them ensure you get nipples to fit from the same supplier

the spokes sold by classic bike are not EMGO , they are MK3 spec spokes packs of 4 x10 spokes 20x 9G 20X 8G polished stainless with brass nickel nipples
 
Frankie17 said:
Taiwan spokes will be most likely be cut thread nipples
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No they are rolled. They are not some back of shed workshop but have been making spokes for decades.

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EMGO Spokes
 
I Emailed classic bike shop because they had no stock on rear sets of spokes and there reply was .
Unfortunately they are currently on back order with our supplier and we are unable to give lead times sorry.
They are manufactured in Taiwan by a company called Emgo.

Kind Regards

Kerrie Rogers
Classicbikeshop Ltd

Sorry Frankie.
 
all the Japanese / Euro ( not British ) manufacturers use cut threads and have done for decades Taiwan sourced spokes are normally cut thread forms its not a back of the shed process
industry standard for most of the world
 
Frankie17 said:
...they are MK3 spec spokes packs of 4 x10 spokes 20x 9G 20X 8G...
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Mk3 spec.?
All Commando front disc wheels had (20 of each) 8 and 9 SWG spokes (4 sets of 10 from '1973') with the same spoke part numbers.
'1972', however, had 20 of the same 8 SWG disc-side spokes.
All had the same (20 + 20) 8 and 9 SWG x Edit: 0.300" nipples.
The 850 Mk3 spoke pattern is different due to the brake being moved to the L/H side.
 
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Just measured one to check, 4.00mm spoke diameter, 4.43mm thread diameter. 100% a rolled thread.
 
SWG 8 is 4.06mm Brit spoke manufacturers use this spec wire Asian suppliers use metric 4.0 mm wire rolled or not rolled threads try swapping the nipples all will become clear

the MK3 spec spokes as per parts book ? should show inner and outer spokes 10 of each ( outer have longer heads ) the MK3 spoke pattern changes because the nipple holes are pierced down the centre line of the rim as per aftermarket rims the original Dunlop Jones rims used offset nipple hole piercing which alters the spoke length by a nominal amount
most spoke sets available today are slightly amended length to suit aftermarket rims
 
Frankie17 said:
the MK3 spec spokes as per parts book ? should show inner and outer spokes 10 of each ( outer have longer heads )
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The same 4 spoke sets of 10 as the pre-Mk3 disc spokes but reversed right to left.

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063922
063923
063924
063925
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Frankie17 said:
the MK3 spoke pattern changes because the nipple holes are pierced down the centre line of the rim
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The early Mk3 front rim was the same (06-1951) Dunlop MC275 as pre-Mk3 so the only difference was the change in spoke pattern due to the disc moving from the right-hand side to the left. The spokes, however, remained the same.

"Norton 750 / 850 - 1973 incl. 850Mk1A"
"Norton 850 Mk3 - 1975-on"

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Andover Norton - SPOKES (PER 10) - 06.3922

SPOKES (PER 10)
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Andover Norton - SPOKES (PER 10) - 06.3923

SPOKES (PER 10)
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Andover Norton - SPOKES (PER 10) GALVANISED 8 GAUGE - 06.3924

SPOKES (PER 10) GALVANISED 8 GAUGE
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Andover Norton - SPOKES (PER 10) - 06.3925

SPOKES (PER 10)
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The later Mk3 Dunlop MC288 nipple holes don't appear to be positioned any differently from the MC275 rim.
EMGO Spokes
 
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1970-72 750 parts book shows disc rim 06-1951 this part number is also used for MK3 ??? but spokes specs 20x 06-2538 10 x 06-2539 10x 06-2540
Pattern rims can be used on both early and late models as the hub flange dimensions remain the same

early rims use the offset dimple pattern and require a different spoke length the rims currently supplied for Commando disc by all aftermarket suppliers will require the spec as per your post
rim holes are now pierced closer to the centre line of the rim well so there will be a nominal difference in the corrected spoke length currently supplied to fit the aftermarket rim

Andover currently list the rim spoke combo as per your post for 1972 as this is what is currently available my OG 750 parts book is as above
 
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1970-72 750 parts book shows disc rim 06-1951 this part number is also used for MK3 ???
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Yes, for "1972" and later. Not prior to that as no disc until '1972'. The drum rim was MB41.

Frankie17 said:
but spokes specs 20x 06-2538 10 x 06-2539 10x 06-2540
Pattern rims can be used on both early and late models as the hub flange dimensions remain the same
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Andover currently list the rim spoke combo as per your post for 1972 as this is what is currently available my OG 750 parts book is as above
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Frankie17 said:
early rims use the offset dimple pattern and require a different spoke length the rims currently supplied for Commando disc by all aftermarket suppliers will require the spec as per your post
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But, it's the same 06-1951, (MC275) rim from '72 used with the '72 spokes.
'1972' Parts list:
EMGO Spokes


The '1972' (20+10+10) spokes could be used although 06-2538 (x20), and 06-2540 (x10) are no longer available from AN, those early spokes having been superseded by the later 4 sets of x10 spokes listed in my previous post.
The disc rim was the same 06-1951 part from 1972 to Mk3, therefore, as the rim is the same '72-'Mk3 then the later 1973-on (not "Mk3 spec") spokes should also be suitable for a '1972' rim.
 
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my old wheel building records show the 20 spokes 06-2538 1972 to be 9G this may explain the part number change as the commando got heavier the spoke gauge was increased to 8 gauge
OEM rim part numbers remain the same 06-1951 , but please compare the OEM Dunlop to a Central wheel British chrome and you will see the piercing pattern changes
current after market rims require a nominal adjustment to spoke length as the OEM pronounced staggered piercing is no longer available all the dimples run along the centre line and are pierced left / right at the angle required this is cost saving to make blank rims more universal
 
Frankie17 said:
my old wheel building records show the 20 spokes 06-2538 1972 to be 9G this may explain the part number change as the commando got heavier the spoke gauge was increased to 8 gauge
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No, it wouldn't as the spoke nipples were 20 of each from '72.
 
you are correct the parts book show 9/8g nipples so why the part number change for the spokes 20 off my information from LHE shows spokes were supplied with increased diameter
as some early rotor side spokes had failed
 
Frankie17 said:
the spokes 20 off my information from LHE shows spokes were supplied with increased diameter
as some early rotor side spokes had failed
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The 20 disc-side nipples for that spoke part number were all 8 SWG.
 
My MKIII commando SN 332630 has the original rim laced to the the original hub with the original spokes. Disc-side spokes measure 0.160" , off-side 0.140." The rim dimples are offset. The rear has had an 18" wheel (Dunlop) laced on with lighter spokes than the disc-side front and the dimples are offset. This change was done about 1989.
 
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