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travelerjerry said:
Well, the seller must be happy.

Happy?

I expect he/she will in fact be "laughing all the way to the bank" (as we say in the UK) :lol:
 
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That certainly doesn't sound like much of a bargain! :eek:

I think that here in the USA, a used Commando frame will generally bring about $200 (more or less) on ebay.

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I saw that at £738.00 when it had 1 day & 19 hrs to go, & thought it rediculous then.
Last week, a pair of fibre glass roadster side panels went for £111.00. I thought about going for these & thought maybe £30.00 top wack.
Maybe I ought to break my Norton up & sell the parts. With all that money I could get, I could buy 3 or 4 complete ones.
Hmm, lets see,
Frame, £1131.00
Tank, £350.00
Side Panels, £111.00
Wheels, £500.00
Engine, £2000.00
Gearbox, £250.00
Well, you get the picture!
Or maybe I could get a certain E bay shop to sell them for me at 5 times the price?
Yes, I sound synical. All the fun of rebuilding motorcycles, which has always been my favourite hobby is ebbing away.
 

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Kinda makes you wonder what a MkIII still in its crate is gonna bring, don't it?
 
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cash said:
It's a lot to pay for free road tax. :wink:

Is that they deal? How much is the road tax?

Brand new frames are less than that one, but can you register them as old?
 
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well, it's a bit strange, but Les Emery bid £951 for it....how much do you think he would have asked for it when he tried to sell it on!!!

double it and you may get close!!!
 
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Just looked, £740 plus VAT gets you a new one from Andover Norton. So why would Emery bid so much, dodgy dealing going on?
 

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swooshdave said:
How much is the road tax?

= £66.00 GBP for a year, or £36.30 for 6 months. [Edit] For a motorcycle over 600cc. (different rates apply to smaller machines and other vehicle types) http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow ... G_10012524

Vehicles manufactured before 01.01.73 get free tax discs.

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Brand new frames are less than that one, but can you register them as old?

I'm not sure that would be exactly legal, but it could be difficult to prove, if somebody did fit an old frame plate from a registered frame onto a new frame.
 

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ludwig said:
Gino Rondelli said:
Just looked, £740 plus VAT gets you a new one from Andover Norton. So why would Emery bid so much, dodgy dealing going on?
so that he can register one of his "new" bikes ??

Even though rebuilding a new bike up with an old registered frame is probably an easy option, and no doubt it is done, but I've heard that it isn't all that difficult to get a motorcycle through the UK MSVA test anyway once you know what's required.
 
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When I sold my (original) MK3 frame two years ago with superficial damage, I only got £85.00. I wish I'd waited :cry:

Surely there's some sort of scam going on here? It's just that I can't work it out!
 
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From reading the answers to the questions the only genuine bit could be the V5, Vin plate is brand new and the frame has been powder coated.
 

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kommando said:
From reading the answers to the questions the only genuine bit could be the V5, Vin plate is brand new and the frame has been powder coated.

It's a frame that has the rear cross-tube with the main stand lugs under the gearbox, so even if the new plate was false (which I doubt) then it's still a "tax-free" year frame, and there's no apparent evidence of any deception as far as I can see, even if it has got a new plate.

If it had sold for £150-£200 then I doubt anybody would have given it a second thought?
 
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I said could, if I was the buyer I would be asking a few questions to make sure it was genuine and not just a non V5'd frame matched to a V5 of same vintage. Thats the problems with the Norton red plates unlike the stamped BSA and Triumph frames. Have seen Land Rover Series 2 Tax Free V5's alone with no parts going for £200, no doubt to be mated to a new chassis with an old plate.
 

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However, a 1971 frame ought to be the type with the forward cross tube?
I will have to check to see if I can find out exactly when the later frame was introduced, as "142088" appears to be from reasonably early 1971 production so there's a chance the factory could still have been using the earlier version frame at that time?
 

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Apparently, the centre stand change (and therefore the frame change) was supposed to have ocurred at serial 141783, so technically the 142088 plate number doesn't match the frame, but as those serial numbers are reasonably close, there's a chance that the number could still be genuine.
 
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hi all,it could be the reg nmbr on the v5 thats pumped up the price,not the fact that it qualifies for tax exempt,as ludwig said les probably wanted it to build a new bike around it or the reg nmbr is LES 750 J or summat like that,or it could be someone bought it to transfer the nmbr to their car or bike,regarding buying a new frame from andover or norvil as i understand it there are no nmbrs on them you are expected to scrap your old bent frame but stamp its nmbrs either on the frame or vin plate,for someone to spend this much on a frame with v5 its got to be for the reg nmbr or hes fell out with his money,i bought an 850 frame,no v5,original nmbr,excelent condition and paint a couple years ago for 100 quid
 
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The seller says that the top tube is straight. Can't be genuine Commando then ! :)

ID plate would be correct for an 850MkIII but not for a 750.

If I had a '71 bike in the UK, I'd be buying an extra padlock for it. If the frame hasn't been bought by the UK's most ethical Norton dealer then there's a good chance that it'll form the basis of a 'ringer' at that price.
 
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