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Sat out looking at the MK3 standing next to the Honda VFR ,it was a sunny afternoon and the bikes where pushed out onto the yard,i recon they needed the fresh air!
Any way how do we compare the two,or should we "not even try" ? two pot ,push rod air cooled ...best of western engineering. Or V 4 d.o.h.c Blar,Blar ,Blar! eastern engineering.
The two machines are chalk and cheese, thats for sure.
Cost next, Oily rag Commando £4500-5,500 Mint Low milage Honda £2500 Top's! stick a carbon can on the V4 and its the best sound ever! Must stick out my neck here...but the V4 sound's better than the commando So its just looks and nostalga ? or are we just crazy.? Im' bent over ready for a shafting.
Lastly would the new norton sell with a D.O.H.C V4? Know where i'm going here :lol:
 
Sorry, got to disagree, best sound for me is a BSA/Triumph Rob North Triple with works exhaust at full chat. Now that's a proper noise !
Possibly I am Biased though :D
sam
 
Nah, just give me one of the new Yamaha triple engines and I'll put together something "nostalgic" but with all the goods and most importantly that 3 cyl growl.
 
well the new Yamaha triple has twice the HP of them old clunkers , 115 BHP, keeping Triumph on their toes with their triples, shame new Japanese bikes dont look good anymore.
 
Did anybody hear the MV Agusta F3 at the TT this year - spine tingling, again it's that triple thing
 
Yes got to agree those Tridents/rocket threes do sound the biss, at the April Stafford show a few where being red lined, the sound of three triples on song with those 3-1 meggas :!: My ear drum's where shattered!!!! Nine cylinders at 9000,only 6 feet away...
 
SquareHead said:
I have to agree with the Yamaha Triple. I really like the sound of an XS750 or XS850!
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If we weren't speaking of comparison this would belong somewhere else, but since we are then I feel there is not comparison.
I bought a xs850 in 1980. Not the midnight special, just the regular special. It was a bad ass runner. I still have the little tool for swapping out the pucks for valve adjustment. I owned it in tandom with the 74MK2a with the JP paint scheme. Lost them both due to hard times.
A Duc has come and gone in the mean time and even with that, there is still no comparison, other than the 2 wheels of course.
 
I dunno, a Commando with Dunstall silencers or a Duc 996 with Remus cans both at upper rpm are great music. Anything that drowns out H-D's.
Harley Davidson= The most efficient method of turning gasoline into noise.
 
spelky said:
Did anybody hear the MV Agusta F3 at the TT this year - spine tingling, again it's that triple thing
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Even on the TV that thing sounded fantastic.
 
I am not sure i am Lucky to be old enough, to have heard some great machines,but i remember hearing Ago's MV 500 three in the paddock, C 1972 Oulton Park the bike was being warmed up, then you could stand next to the bikes, i thought it was magic. Running the engine up to 5-6 thousand and Ago watching near by...
I was also impressed with the 750 Harley Cal Rayborn was campaining in the Trans-atlantic race's ,the bike had a deep growl as it passed. Those where the days,£5 in my pocket and a Mini Cooper S.....what more did i require? Ok the Velo Thruxton on the car park!!!!
 
There are a few bikes that have a sound that really stirs the soul. A Norton with peashooters has a wonderful exhaust note without upsetting the neighbors. I love Triumph twins before noise restrictions (straight pipes can be as abnoxious as HDs). Triumph/BSA triples with raygun or race exhausts are loud but sexy. Laverda triples with a Joda exhaust on full tilt have a roar that really is beautiful music. Vincent twins have a nice, deep roar. Ducatis sound good (except for their GP bikes). I like the sound of Harley panheads and shovelheads (a more relaxed potato-potato than the new Harleys). Just me, but the sound of Japanese bikes has never turned my crank, but any of the above get my attention when I hear them.
 
Those where the days,£5 in my pocket and a Mini Cooper S.....what more did i require? Ok the Velo Thruxton on the car park!!!!

When 5 quid was real money, when a mini wasnt a females choice and even those of us lucky
to be on a Trident lusted for a Velo.
Sic transit gloria.
 
john robert bould said:
Cost next, Oily rag Commando £4500-5,500 Mint Low milage Honda £2500 Top's! stick a carbon can on the V4 and its the best sound ever! Must stick out my neck here...but the V4 sound's better than the commando So its just looks and nostalga ? ...
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Yep. Pretty much - Looks and Nostalgia. I remember cafe racers and ton ups when they were cool the first time around. Then, a cafe bike and a black leather jacket would get you barred from all but the seediest of hangouts (the Ace Cafe - now a mecca - was just a dirty, greasy spoon joint like a gazillion others on the A1). Now, they have TV shows dedicated to it all, fer cryin' out loud!

So, logic doesn't apply here in this topic. The same type of twerps who were paying $60 - $100K for HD knock offs with trick paint (i.e. S&S motors - think Jessie James' stuff) now think they want to be a bad-ass 50s teddy boy with a classic bike. True story: One guy I know of had to get his mechanic to hook up his battery tender! No joke!!

Another true story: I had a 1957 Triumph with a pre-unit 650 motor in it. Had it since University days. My Dad retired and decided to rebuild my bike as a hobby. He did a pretty good job, but his forte was cars, not bikes. So, he didn't realize that one puts oil in front forks - he left them dry. A guy down the road liked bikes and asked my Dad if he could take it for a spin. Dad said, 'Yes'. The guy took off for about 3-hrs!! Cam back glowing with praise. Said the bike really handled. Really?? A 1957 single down-tube Triumph frame, forks with no oil, so zero damping, and 40+ year old Girling shocks, and it "really handled?" Come on! There was no objectivity at play at all. Just Nostalgia and illusions.

This too will pass ....
 
john robert bould said:
Sat out looking at the MK3 standing next to the Honda VFR ,it was a sunny afternoon and the bikes where pushed out onto the yard,i recon they needed the fresh air!
Any way how do we compare the two,or should we "not even try" ? two pot ,push rod air cooled ...best of western engineering. Or V 4 d.o.h.c Blar,Blar ,Blar! eastern engineering.
The two machines are chalk and cheese, thats for sure.
Cost next, Oily rag Commando £4500-5,500 Mint Low milage Honda £2500 Top's! stick a carbon can on the V4 and its the best sound ever! Must stick out my neck here...but the V4 sound's better than the commando So its just looks and nostalga ? or are we just crazy.? Im' bent over ready for a shafting.
Lastly would the new norton sell with a D.O.H.C V4? Know where i'm going here :lol:
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V4 Hmmm open Akras on a V-TWIN float my boat
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The newer Triumph Tridents can be made to have a bit of go.
This one apparently has somewhere near 300 bhp.
Some girls like a bit of go ?!

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Beats me what this has to do with Commandos though...
 
It looks like its gonna need that hp. If you told that girl to haul ass , she'd have to make like three trips.
 
Snorton74 said:
It looks like its gonna need that hp. If you told that girl to haul ass , she'd have to make like three trips.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Built for comfort, not speed!
 
I have three "Best Noise Ever" scenarios, both from the early 70s.
1 At the Silverstone international F750 race there were 6 (that's six) works BSA/Triumph 750 triples. I was in the grandstand at Woodcote, which back then was a 125mph corner. Imagine the BSA/Triumphs in line astern and the noise reverberating around the grandstand....spine tingling stuff
2 At the corresponding meeting in 1973, Ago on the works MV 500/3 being followed, sometimes led by PJ on the JPN. PJ would always make ground on the corners, but the combined noise was fantastic. PJ ran out of petrol half way round the last lap, when in the lead.......
3 Hailwood on the 297 Honda six at Brands Hatch.....not really loud, but the note was, again, fantastic
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