Donald Trump? Stranger thing have happened in the USA..

When he's president you will be buying more items 'Proudly made in the USA' when he has played the Chinese at their own game and told them to go ram their products and here is the new import duty for them!!! Might be no bad thing!!
 
I'm no Trump fan, but I wonder what you all think of this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Jose.html

Trump supporter gets blind-sided, cold cocked, by three thugs.
Assault and battery conspiracy, that’s a felony.
Cops are there, do nothing.

Watch the video link inside the above linked article.

Three guys, one in a tan shirt uses a Mexican flag to try to screen what they are doing. Then, guy in black shirt yells in their victim’s left ear; when he turns his head toward black shirt, the guy on his right, in the grey shirt, round house punches him; blind-sided victim drops to ground.

San Jose’s cops are right there. They do nothing.
Despite being on dirt bikes (DRZs), they let the thugs melt away.
Politicized law enforcement? While they might have missed the punch, they saw the rats scurry.
Guy on the ground, three guys fleeing - THAT, they for sure saw.
San Jose’s Mayor, of course, is a Hillary Democrat.

Who organized, paid for, this astro turf?
This “grass roots” agitprop?
Soros? Media Matters? SEIU?
Where the hell are the MSM’s vaunted investigative journalists?

These are Brown Shirts, the stuff of Hitler and Mussolini.

This is hate and violence, by and for the left.
I want to know what the hell good Democrats are going to do about it!
 
xbacksideslider said:
I'm no Trump fan, but I wonder what you all think of this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Jose.html

Trump supporter gets blind-sided, cold cocked, by three thugs.
Assault and battery conspiracy, that’s a felony.
Cops are there, do nothing.

Watch the video link inside the above linked article.

Three guys, one in a tan shirt uses a Mexican flag to try to screen what they are doing. Then, guy in black shirt yells in their victim’s left ear; when he turns his head toward black shirt, the guy on his right, in the grey shirt, round house punches him; blind-sided victim drops to ground.

San Jose’s cops are right there. They do nothing.
Despite being on dirt bikes (DRZs), they let the thugs melt away.
Politicized law enforcement? While they might have missed the punch, they saw the rats scurry.
Guy on the ground, three guys fleeing - THAT, they for sure saw.
San Jose’s Mayor, of course, is a Hillary Democrat.

Who organized, paid for, this astro turf?
This “grass roots” agitprop?
Soros? Media Matters? SEIU?
Where the hell are the MSM’s vaunted investigative journalists?

These are Brown Shirts, the stuff of Hitler and Mussolini.

This is hate and violence, by and for the left.
I want to know what the hell good Democrats are going to do about it!
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At least a dozen more Trump supporters will have to be punched out by anti-Trumpers to equal all the violence that has been committed on anti-Trumpers by Trump supporters, so ease up on the Brownshirt stuff before you get brownshirt on your shirt. Good Democrats (like all good citizens) are going to stand back and stay out of idiot behavior perpetrated by either Trump supporters or Trump detractors. Meanwhile, the Donald himself continues to incite the rabble with his wild rants and thin-skinned "I know you are, but what am I?" brand of politics. He and that fat-headed moron who runs North Korea are getting a mutual admiration society started.
 
A survey of US voters has apparently quoted that 47% wouldn't vote for either Clinton OR Trump.
Thats almost an outright majority already. !

That means the race is still very wide open to someone acceptable who can get their name on the ballot paper.
Watch that space ?
 
There it is, again - the left's favorite argument - moral equivalence.
Failure to make a list of examples, belies the claim.

Even assuming that there is a list of examples, do two wrongs make a right?
 
xbacksideslider said:
There it is, again - the left's favorite argument - moral equivalence.
Failure to make a list of examples, belies the claim.

Even assuming that there is a list of examples, do two wrongs make a right?
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In case you haven't been paying attention, those examples you so RIGHTeously demand have been all over the news for months. Or did you just wake up to discover the shining light of Trump's lunacy? None of the tenets of the RIGHT (wing) have ever been proven to have positive results for most folks; tax cuts for the rich, deregulation to let the rich corporations and banks run wild, extreme military imperialism, racism, xenophobia, ALL have produced negative results. So please tell me, what's so right about the RIGHT? What is the RIGHT going to do beyond tongue-clicking expressions of moral indignation? That is, assuming a President Trump would even go along with their agenda? In truth, NOBODY knows what the Great Orange One would do if given the mandate. My guess is something completely stupid. And possibly irreversible.
 
I'm free market Libertarian and I regard most Republican politicians as "me too" socialists who, with Democrats disrespect property rights. I am not a slave, I own myself, and I own and have the liberty to dispose of all the products of my hands my back and my mind. Socialists of course do not believe in that principal; they believe that they can take anything and everything from me by mere majority rule.


I see Democrats and Republicans as being co-actors in the welfare/warfare state. Ever since Woodrow Wilson and on through FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson the Democrats proved themselves to be the war party. WWI and WWII - both Democrat wars. Korea and Vietnam too. After 9-11 Democrats bemoaned the fact that Bush instead of a Democrat could roll in the graft and glory of another war. Republicans were isolationists between the wars and when the isolationist wing of the Republicans was defeated by the co-opted "me too" country club Wall Street Republicans during the near fascist reign of FDR, Republicans joined the Democrats' warfare/welfare imperialist march.

Danno, I defy you to turn up ANY link of any video showing a Trump supporter committing any act of violence that is comparable to the viscious crime I first linked too. Did you even watch it?

My concern is not to defend Trump but to call out and to encourage universal condemnation of such hateful violence.
 
Really don't feel up to wallowing in the Trump-contaminated mud with you over this. Libertarians should have their own country where there are no taxes, no regulations and every person is a lonesome cowboy out on the prairie making his way all by himself. Unfortunately, for you at least, no such place exists on earth where there is more than one person within a thousand square miles. It must be nice to sit back and brand everyone who doesn't agree with your philosophy a Socialist out to take everything you've created all by yourself. That way you can absolve yourself of all responsibility for society's ills, confident in the knowledge that it's everyone else in the world who is screwed up and not you.

I hereby apologize for majority rule and all the other tenets of modern democracy, plus wanting to take all your stuff, since I am one of these "Socialists" you speak of.
 
Still no links? Ya got nuthin. Your moral equivalence is a dodge.
As for your cute evasive refusal to "wallow," you jumped in first when you refused to condemn political violence.
 
Let's all get together and sing Kumbaya and condemn political violence before someone who takes no responsibility for anything other than themselves decides that political violence is all our fault. Your phony outrage doesn't change a thing.

Trump's campaign manager assaulted a protester. A Secret Service Agent assaulted a reporter who stepped over a piece of tape. A Trump supporter sucker punched a protester at a Trump rally. Apparently everyone has seen the videos but you. Is it really any surprise when things go the other way? Maybe if the Jews had reacted to the Nazis early on by beating the shit out of some of them, things would have turned out differently. At least they would have gone down fighting. But their fear of so-called 'authority" and their wish to be civil and calm froze them in their tracks until it was too late.

I don't need to post links to prove what I've seen and what I know, which is this; Trump is a rabble-rouser and a clown who will say anything on a given day to incite his supporters. What he doesn't seem to realize is that he's also inciting his detractors. Emotionally incited people tend to do stupid things, especially when stupid things have already been done by their opponents. I hope the Trump supporters and the Trump haters all beat the shit out of each other. Trump himself will never take responsibility for any of it, even though he is the cause. It's just more proof he's not mentally equipped to be President and the longer it goes on, the more people will think twice about voting for him. The Libertarians will all stay home and not vote at all, or vote for a Libertarian candidate nobody ever heard of, so they can take no responsibility regardless of who wins.
 
There is no video of any comparable violence. If there was, then you would've posted it.

And, your words seem to show that you approve of such racist "La Raza" Mexican flag waving nationalistic violence; no surprise, that's typical of the authoritarian left. Righteous violence, is it? Brown Shirts.

For anyone who thinks this statement is extreme, watch the video in the link that I first posted on Friday.
Judge for yourself.

Danno, post your links; ya got nuthin; your claim of equivalence is bogus.
 
Boy Im an idiot for diving in here but today is a rainy here in New York and it is a Tavern!
The way I see it, quite soon, who are the two candidates for president will be known. Maybe there will be
a third or fourth choice but likely not.
Therefore we get to choose A or B and there you are.
A usual, it is not a huge difference in candidates. But there is some difference so you chose
or you stay home. Staying home keeps your hands clean but by not voting one of the candidates
profits.
Gee, it sure is pain, democracy and all that!
 
xbacksideslider said:
There is no video of any comparable violence. If there was, then you would've posted it.

And, your words seem to show that you approve of such racist "La Raza" Mexican flag waving nationalistic violence; no surprise, that's typical of the authoritarian left. Righteous violence, is it? Brown Shirts.

For anyone who thinks this statement is extreme, watch the video in the link that I first posted on Friday.
Judge for yourself.

Danno, post your links; ya got nuthin; your claim of equivalence is bogus.
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The only thing extreme here are your views, which are shared by a tiny, do-nothing minority of self-satisfied weirdos. Prepare for someone you don't agree with to get elected so you can sit back and claim superiority. You have no idea what I approve of and what I don't. People like you love to pigeonhole everyone they don't agree with as extremists, communists, socialists, nazis, whatever. The lunatic fringe is unaware of how far out there they are. Call me "the authoritarian left" or any of your other little names to my face and I'll show you some righteous violence. Asshole.
 
Still . . . . . no evidence to support your claim of moral equivalence?
Name calling? That's all you've got?
And then your very own threat of VIOLENCE against me.
And we are supposed to believe your claim that you do not endorse the attack shown in that link?

What set you off in the first place was my use of the phrase "Brown Shirts."
Obviously, the truth hurts.

The fact that these violent protesters are waving Mexican flags makes them nationalistic.
The fact that they are "La Raza" protesters virtually admits racism.
The fact that Hispanics and Blacks also attend but they usually don't get attacked appears racist.
The fact that the victims, usually, are White, appears racist.
The fact that the thugs are of the left, or at least liberal Democrats, makes them socialists.
So, what do we have here? National Socialists.
1930's. Brown Shirts. Fascists.


http://journalofamericangreatness.blogs ... judge.html

Another link, relates to Trump and his criticism of Judge Curiel. This link explores how it is OK, no expected, that USSCt Justice Sotomayor be a "wise Latina" and apply the law unequally and with a racist bias to achieve "social justice" but USSCt Justice Thomas is an "Uncle Tom" for applying the law equally to all and refusing to act with racial animus in his decisions.
 
So, ya still got nuthin.

The first link I already admitted, an 80 yr old Trump fan's attempt to slug a heckler AND he was arrested.

Your second link . . . . huh? is video of your criminal left attacking Trump fans, none of em arrested.

Your third link . . .. about some internet hoax, not Trumpsters beating your brown shirts.

And your fourth, more wackadoodle stuff, some guy claims to be a neo Nazi who claims support for Trump?

There is NO video comparable to this one, the one that I began with,
http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/ ... 388093.mp4
where it's three against one, three guys conspiring - assault and battery, and the police do nothing.



Bottom line Danno, ya still got nuthin, your claim of moral equivalence - "They all do it - Trumpsters too" was bogus from the start.
 
Cleopatra, Queen of denial, it it you who have NOTHING. Your attempt to turn this thread about The Donald into a platform for your personal political views is just plain lame. You asked for links, you got links. Not that I put any credence into those, but you apparently do. Two wrongs may not make a right, but the only thing a response to violence with anything other than violence has ever netted is unrelenting violence. Trumpers opened that door and should not complain when their opposition replies in kind. And self-righteous do-nothings can be outraged and call those they disagree with all the nasty political epithets their limited, repetitive vocabulary allows. You keep saying the same thing over and over as if it will gain credibility, but it just looks like buzzwords from a scared little person who hasn't had an original thought in years. Still an asshole.
 
There is nothing like a recession for bringing the weirdos out to play - but who is laughing now, you bastards ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJqKbmcCGXg

Since our last election a couple of weeks ago, this person now has herself and two others in our upper house of parliament with the job of ratifying legislation. Surely you must be able to find a job for her helping Donald Trump ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqc14QWPI4
 

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