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Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch

Discussion in 'Access Norton Pub' started by acotrel, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. acotrel

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    I don't usually see the American media, and in Australia our media commentary is subject to certain political influences. I understand that when Trump was in the running to become POTUS, that Murdoch was giving him good press. If that was the case, when Trump attacks the credibility of the US media these days, does he somehow exclude Rupert Murdoch from criticism ? I'd very much like to know what Murdoch's 'quid pro quo' is with Trump - he usually acts primarily in the interests of News Corp when he helps somebody get elected. It is interesting in Australia to note which politicians align themselves with Trump. Most seem to be standing well back.
     
  2. frankdamp

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    If they're standing well back, maybe they could throw rocks. Do us all a good turn!
     
  3. xbacksideslider

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    Murdoch has made millions by serving a menu that conservatives and free market types want.
    That market niche exists, only because the MSM refuses to serve that kind of intellectual food.
    The MSM's bias is so deep, all over the world, they leave money on the table. It's obsessive.

    Murdoch, all over the world, scoops it up.
     
  4. acotrel

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    Our politicians won't be throwing rocks - they are too chicken for that. They are treading very carefully. They don't seem to know whether to align with Trump or avoid him. There is the matter of public opinion to consider. If Trump is too outrageous, the Australian public probably won't want anything to do with him. We've got enough idiots of our own.
     
  5. acotrel

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    I'm still very interested to know what game Murdoch is playing in all of this. He is very insidious. - What is he going to gain by supporting Trump ?
     
  6. nickguzzi

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    I hear stories of cuts to public service broadcasting in the US, someone has to take up the slack.
     
  7. bill

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    this has been on going before trump. with a government debt that is approaching 20 trillion by years end there has to be some cuts and if it is PBS so be it. it is NOT a necessary function like so many things the tax payers are paying for. it is called priority's.


     
  8. xbacksideslider

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    Game? he's "playing?" He's making money, covering things from a conservative point of view.
    If that is "insidious" by you, then OK, that's you.

    Murdoch retired, his sons are running Fox here in the U.S.; someone else is running the Wall Street Journal.
    Neither Fox or the WSJ "support" Trump, he bitches about them too, but a lot less than he does all the others.

    The bias of Fox and the WSJ is mainstream Republican party, there are lots of "Never Trump" people at both places.
     
  9. xbacksideslider

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    I pay for what I want, not what I do not want and I resent being taxed to pay for the propagandists at PBS.

    If you send them a check, PBS will cash it. Go for it.
     
  10. acotrel

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  11. acotrel

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    Currently in Australia, there is a political debate about Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. It began because one of Murdoch's guys - Andrew Bolt, LIED about aborigines and was prosecuted under that Act. Murdoch obviously will not stand corrected and wants to be able to vilify whomever he chooses, with impunity. The debate has been manouvered to become an issue about 'freedom of speech'. It is actually an issue about 'freedom of the press' - the freedom of Murdoch to victimise all and sundry in order to sell newspapers.
     
  12. xbacksideslider

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    While there is interesting stuff in that link, I hope you don't think that that site is down the middle.
    In fact Media Matters is far Left - see Wikipedia -

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Mat ... ca#Funding

    Further, what your Media Matters link shows me is that Murdoch is up against a 39% market limit imposed by a largely Democrat regulatory body. Murdoch can't have more than 39% market share in any one market, as determined by the FCC. That means, at best, he has 39% against 61%.

    So . . . . up to 61% of the field is held by CBS, NBC, and ABC and the big city newspapers - all house organs of the Democrat party.

    I should add, that thanks to Ronald Reagan, the FCC does NOT have jurisdiction over cable, and that is where FOX news really resides. That Media Matters link, fails to note this distinction.
     
  13. acotrel

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  14. Danno

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    So when the so-called "liberal media" broadcasts a story that shed unfavorable light on "free marketers" like Trump, it's propaganda, but when Murdoch and his ilk puke their hogwash all over his outlets, it's "serving intellectual food"? If you spin that any faster, all the bullshit will fly off and there'll be nothing left.
     
  15. acotrel

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    Trump has accused Obama of hacking his phones. However the media guy who is backing Trump is the same guy who was found guilty of hacking phones of politicians and other public figures in the UK. If the media were doing it there, why not in America ?
    Attack is often the best form of defence and Trump might be acting because of his own guilt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtLziL2T9nQ&t=457s
     
  16. frankdamp

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    Why would the outgoing president be interested in one of the candidates to take over his job? If anyone was hacking Trump (which I doubt ever happened) , it would be the meddling Russians.
     
  17. Rohan

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    As mentioned about, its the NSA ya gotta watch ! (or vice versa).

    They have a budget of $billions, many $billions, to spy on folks.
    And the 'discussion' about who they can and can't spy on happened donkeys years ago...
    Wouldn't be surprised if they knew what brand of toilet paper the Trump uses, and how many sheets....
     
  18. Danno

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    Another day, another unsubstantiated lie to distract attention from the last lie. More taxpayer money spent on a phony witch hunt. Mrs. Putin had better get his $#!+ together soon.

    When the guy with his finger on the nuclear button is more concerned with Arnold's ratings and ivanka's clothing line than what North Korea is up to.......
     
  19. xbacksideslider

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    Honestly, the whole thing is, as they say, rich.

    "The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming"
    Ooooo - "they're under the bed too! I saw one, under the bed!"

    It's a circle jerk. Dems screaming about some NYTs story that cites "unnamed, highly placed, confidential sources" which say "Trump was communicating with the Russians,"

    How do they know? Well, "there are transcripts. He was under surveillance/tapped."
    Ooooooh, that's proof!!!! Can you show us? "No, the transcripts are secret, dontchaknow."
    "Remember, I'm an unnamed, highly place, confidential source . . . and I know because I used to work for Obama"
    "Oh, OK," says the MSM whore . . . "good enough for me - Trump's in it with the Russians!"
    What tools.

    Then Trump says "I was tapped by Obama - Watergate II."
    Full freak out from the MSM - "He has no proof!"

    He does not have to have proof - IT IS IN THEIR OWN STORIES.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Back on you. Turnabout is fair play. Get it?

    WHAT?! is the screech from the Dems - Not another Watergate?!?!?! By us?
    Oh shit, we better back up!

    So Trumps hangs 'em from their own sky hook.
    Hillarious. Misspelling and pun intended.



    And, yes, Rohan, not just the NSA but the Deep State generally is a huge threat to what is left of our free society.
    Anyone who says "Didn't happen if there wasn't a warrant" is naïve or dishonest.
     
  20. Danno

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    Lie of the Day: Obama responsible for the release of 122 prisoners from Guantanamo. Reality; Obama responsible for the release of 9. The other 113 were released by W.

    Yesterday's lie; Acts and attempted acts of "Islamic Terrorism" were perpetrated by foreigners sneaking into the US. Reality: A majority of these acts and attempts were perpetrated by American citizens who were here legally

    The Weekend Lie: Obama tapped the phones at Trump Tower during the election. Reality; Didn't happen.

    This guy wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass.

    North Korea is lobbing missiles into the Sea of japan that, if launched from their East coast, could actually reach japan.

    Wikileaks (that laugh-a-minute outfit our President has professed love for) has just exposed CIA software in a case that's being called "The CIA's Snowden" risking the lives of thousands of American intelligence officers and completely compromising countermeasures being used against foreign cyber attacks.

    But we sure are deporting lots of Mexicans.
     

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