marshg246
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I've read some posts here about AMAL Concentric carbs losing their drain plugs and I've been working with AMAL lately on several drain plug issues.
First, I've always tightened them with a US quarter dollar coin and have never had a problem until recently. This includes the plastic and metal plugs.
Second, A few weeks ago a put a new Premier set on a Trident. One plug leaked like a sieve no matter how tight I made it, one leaked a little and the other was fine. On investigating I realized that the old thick washer had been replaced by thin hard fiber by AMAL.
When I spoke with AMAL, they said that the Zinc bowls were not machined flat on the bottom, but the aluminum ones were, and they thought they could quit using the old soft thick washers. They wanted to change because they were getting a lot of complaints from people who were overtightening the plug and cracking the washer which made it leak right away or worse come out while riding. Of course, the hard fiber needs to be much tighter, or they will leak or come out! To top that off, the one that leaked like a sieve was machined perfectly flat and exactly parallel to the bowl top, but the threads were cut at a slight angle so the plug could not seal!
Third, AMAL is about to switch back to a thick, softer washer but one that is tougher. All the carbs I have received recently have the newer washers. I am hoping that AMAL will include tightening instructions in the future to put an end to this whole issue. As far a I know, right now, I'm the only one getting the new washers in the carb sets and I don't have a stock of the washers themselves yet.
Last, if you bought a set from me and they have a hard fiber bowl washer make sure it is tight and if it leaks, email me. I can't do much at the moment, but should be able to in a month or so.
In any case, this works well: https://a.co/d/5yyoegu and besides stopping leaks it further ensures that the plug does not come out on its own. In a way, this is like liquid Teflon tape and I use it on the inner chain case to engine bolts to prevent oil leaks from the engine into the inner primary.
First, I've always tightened them with a US quarter dollar coin and have never had a problem until recently. This includes the plastic and metal plugs.
Second, A few weeks ago a put a new Premier set on a Trident. One plug leaked like a sieve no matter how tight I made it, one leaked a little and the other was fine. On investigating I realized that the old thick washer had been replaced by thin hard fiber by AMAL.
When I spoke with AMAL, they said that the Zinc bowls were not machined flat on the bottom, but the aluminum ones were, and they thought they could quit using the old soft thick washers. They wanted to change because they were getting a lot of complaints from people who were overtightening the plug and cracking the washer which made it leak right away or worse come out while riding. Of course, the hard fiber needs to be much tighter, or they will leak or come out! To top that off, the one that leaked like a sieve was machined perfectly flat and exactly parallel to the bowl top, but the threads were cut at a slight angle so the plug could not seal!
Third, AMAL is about to switch back to a thick, softer washer but one that is tougher. All the carbs I have received recently have the newer washers. I am hoping that AMAL will include tightening instructions in the future to put an end to this whole issue. As far a I know, right now, I'm the only one getting the new washers in the carb sets and I don't have a stock of the washers themselves yet.
Last, if you bought a set from me and they have a hard fiber bowl washer make sure it is tight and if it leaks, email me. I can't do much at the moment, but should be able to in a month or so.
In any case, this works well: https://a.co/d/5yyoegu and besides stopping leaks it further ensures that the plug does not come out on its own. In a way, this is like liquid Teflon tape and I use it on the inner chain case to engine bolts to prevent oil leaks from the engine into the inner primary.
Looks like they run nylon washers.
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