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AJS 33: how many built?

Discussion in 'AJS & Matchless' started by pierodn, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. pierodn

    pierodn

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    Hi.
    How many AJS 33 were built?.
    Piero
     
  2. mdt-son

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    Not many, but why do you ask? Do you own one?

    -Knut
     
  3. pierodn

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    Hi Knut.
    I have one complete to restore with engine number 33/CSR1...... and another basket case with engine number G33CS/1....
    What is the differences?.
    Why one has a prefix G?
    What are the Differences from CS and CSR?
    Thank you
    Piero
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2018
  4. dave M

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    I think the CS denoted an off road or street scrambler and the CSR was a cafe racer with swept back pipes and a very racy look.
     
  5. pierodn

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    Hi Dave,
    it is nice to met you here again.
    Greetings from Italy.
    Piero
     
  6. mdt-son

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    Hi Piero,
    If it's a complete model 33/CSR, that would make it an extremely rare and desirable bike. As Dave says, the CSR was a cafe racer. The rear subframe is different to the CS and roadsters. Many cycle parts (mudguards, stays, handlebar, exh. pipes, mufflers, seat?, footrests) are different too. There are pictures on the Internet, please peruse.
    As for the "G33/CS", there never was a model 33/CS to my knowledge. Maybe a previous owner took a G15/CS motor and restamped it. I don't think the factory would have made a bodge like this.

    The 33/CSR was probably a marketing ploy because there never was an N15/CSR, thus giving the buying public an alternative ..... Apart from the P11, all other hybrids were either G15 police/roadster/street scrambler or N15 police/street scrambler models. As for the G15 and N15 police and street scramblers, there is virtually no difference between them. It's probably a matter of selling the same product in different markets under different names. Common practice even today.

    -Knut
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2018
  7. pierodn

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    Hi.
    Please, my 1967 N15 has the fork dampers with internal spring.
    My 33 fork comes me with external spring and not with the damper into.
    There is a mistake of the previous owner ?
    Thank you.
    Piero
     
  8. mdt-son

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    According to the 1965 Spares List Supplement your forks should be like the 1964-66 G12 & G15 Roadster (i.e., 030037 Damper tube, NM18813 main spring) except gaiters (accordion), short cover tubes and clips replaced the long covers (clips are not listed, actually). Hope this helps.

    -Knut
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2018
  9. pierodn

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    Hi Knut.
    I would say that the dampers dont have the springs.
    Must i add the internal springs or the external are enough?.
    Thank you.
    Piero
     
  10. mdt-son

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    Hi Piero, do you want to restore your model 33CSR and/or make it a roadworthy bike? Then follow the spares list and rebuild your fork from the ground up using internal springs and the correct dampers etc. The cited spares book lists all the parts you need. Using the forks of an Atlas Scrambler on your CSR will make road handling at high speed worse. Good luck!

    -Knut