1973 Commando

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Newb here, looking for some advice. Just finished a 5 year restoration of a 66 Mustang and now thinking about doing the same of an old Norton. Came here to learn as much as possible and in the meantime found a complete, I believe, 73 Commando that looks like a fun project. What I know: in the same family since late 70's, 9,xxx miles, not run since 99 after being parked after not re-starting after adding fuel, 2205xx VIN. The link are the only 2 pics I have. Going to look at in person next week, hoping to take it back home with me then.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Cobyboss/1973NortonCommando

What should I be looking for? What do you think is a fair price?
Thanks!
 
The oil probably 'wet sumped' basically draining from the tank into the bottom of the engine...as far as starting.
 
Looks relatively complete. Probably a '74 - 850. If it turns over it will probably run without much work. You'll need to replace a good deal of parts for some reliability but $3k to $4K? Maybe $4K a little high considering you'll most likely have to put $2.5 K of parts if you replace exhaust tires, cables, clutch etc.
 
Looks like a complete bike, but will take a lot of parts and rebuilding, depending if you want a rag runner or a nice looking bike. You have to remember that unless you break it completely down, you just don't know what you have. Consider that when agreeing to a price.

Dave
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It is a MkV 750. The last of the 750's built in late '72 to about April or May of '73 when the 850 was launched. There were two versions, a low compression and a high compression. If the head is stamped RH6, it is the high compression (9.3:1), low compression RH5 (8.9:1). Both heads have 32mm ports. The cam is standard Commando, not Combat. They have the good superblend mains. This model has steel tank and side covers and stainless fenders.

The only incorrect thing I see in the pictures is the seat cover. MkV has the "basketweave" cover.
 
Ron L, you're obviously right about 750 Mk V. Google'd it and looks just the same except as you note the seat. I'd never seen one before and it sure looks a lot like my 74 Mk II. The disk brake, tail light, signals and seat immediately signaled 850. I'm sure if I was more familiar with the 750 I would have recognized that the engine was not an 850.

I still think that this bike could require minimal investment to make it a reasonable looking runner. Looks like it hasn't been sitting in a ditch since 1999 so if it ran than and only has 9K miles the engine may be in good shape. I'd make sure it turns over at minimum if it doesn't run. On the surface it needs new exhaust, reconditioning of the brakes, new tires, maybe new wheels depending on how much rust (front tends to rust more than rear thanks to chain oiler), chain guard, cables, clutch, primary chain, Boyer, and rebuilt Amals. I assume that 73 had the steel tank so no fiberglass problem. I bet parts would go in the range of $2.5K. Paint add another $800.
 
Is that a steel tank? If so it is a good bonus.

If you were to replace bearings (wheels, layshaft, clutch, etc), gaskets, seals, and tires you would learn a lot about your bike and have about 600 dollars invested. From there you could decide how far to go with your project. This is assuming there are no major mechanical faults.

Russ
 
Debates go on all the time as to which Commando is best.
Some consider the MkV 750 the best 750 and maybe the best Commando of them all.
I'm just sayin............................................................................
 
Thanks all for the comments. I'm sure it's a steel tank. The owner checked the VIN plate which he made out to be 9 72 Nov. Going to look at Wednesday, think it can be had for $2.5k. Let you know and then try to figure out where to start?? Can't wait!
 
Re: 1973 Commando MkV

My first Post! I picked up a MkV that had been sitting on display at the Australian Motorcycle Museum (Haigsleigh, Qld) for a number of years. It ran for 15 minutes before blowing the (composite) head gasket.
I intend fitting a copper replacement. Is this accepted wisdom?
The carbies are 32mm yet information varies. Some sources say 30 and others 32. Which is correct?
The intake manifold to head gaskets are very thick (about 3mm) but the manual says it should be paper.
What is correct? Are MkVs "parts bin specials" just to use up remaining 750 stock or special?
 
Re: 1973 Commando MkV

2997v8 said:
My first Post! I picked up a MkV that had been sitting on display at the Australian Motorcycle Museum (Haigsleigh, Qld) for a number of years. It ran for 15 minutes before blowing the (composite) head gasket.
I intend fitting a copper replacement. Is this accepted wisdom?
The carbies are 32mm yet information varies. Some sources say 30 and others 32. Which is correct?
The intake manifold to head gaskets are very thick (about 3mm) but the manual says it should be paper.
What is correct? Are MkVs "parts bin specials" just to use up remaining 750 stock or special?
i am not fond of the copper head gasket but prefer the composite but it will require several re-torque's. it should have the 32MM carbs and the thick heat insulators between the head and manifolds.
 
Thanks. I do have both composite and copper head gaskets. Some of my head bolts were loose so perhaps I shouldn't blame the gasket. Cannot locate thick manifold gaskets. Who supplies them? Can't seem to find a listing on the net.
 
Looks like it is all in one piece and not to0 'butchered'. Before you try and run it, make sure you have removed all the sludge from the oil tank, drain sump and clean strainer and replace oil filter. Once that is done make sure you have oil flow to the head via the valve gear oil lines.
Check out the link beloe for you carb tips.
Replace points and auto advance and retard unti with electronic ignition, my recommendation is Pazon.
if it is n 850 , make sure you have six volt coils, not 12V as this seems to be a common fault. This for both mechanical and electronic ignition.
http://www.jba.bc.ca/Bushmans%20Carb%20Tuning.html
 
My Compliments on a nice find. I have a 1973-750 with a head stamp date of January 1973. According to my Norton Guru it is one of, if not the strongest non-combat 750 that he has ever ridden. If I had the opportunity to obtain that bike for around $3,000 I would be all over it like grape jelly on a peanut butter sandwich.

Most of the work you can do yourself with a bit of mechanical capability and good common sense. Most will invilve a great deal of elbow grease, cleaning, polishing, buffing and such. You may not need paint, but want it. Change all fluids, I would even go so far as to drain, refill kick over about 100 times over the course of a day or two, then drain and fill again. With a new filter both times. And yes, clean all screens filtration systems, etc. Even after sitting nearly 3 decades, my oil screen was nearly as clean as the day it was installed in 1973. But, take your's off and make sure.

Of course drain and fill transmission and primary case also. Most importantly, remove both master cylinder and brake caliper giving both a total rebuild with the latest available hardware, stainless for the caliper. May will suggest a reboring of the master Cylinder. Your choice, I didn't, but I did have disc resurfaced and put on a set of AP Pads, these mods have given me a more than acceptable front brake.

For the cost, which is minimal, I would also change all oil lines. Some may deteriorate from the inside causing rubber bits to flow in the oil system. May as well toss a new chain on when at this point.

Of course new tires, tubes, battery, etc. Keeping Points or going electronic, your choice. If Amals were put away prior to Ethanol, have then rebuilt, or do it your self. I am still vascilating on my decision to go with a single Mikuni..... cold blooded bastard........

Those are my 2 Cents.

Correct seat cover available for about $70 from several sources and easy to install.
 
Re: 1973 Commando MkV

2997v8 said:
The intake manifold to head gaskets are very thick (about 3mm) but the manual says it should be paper.
What is correct?

When referring to "the manual" it usually helps to say which version, and also which section of the particular manual you are referring to, as different manuals (and even different sections of the same manual) often give conflicting information.

The information in section E5 of the 065146 ('71-'73) factory manual gives the following information:
"22. Mount the carburet(t)ors on the cylinder head using the heat insulators between the manifolds and cylinder head...etc."


The 32mm heat insulator is Andover Norton part 063458.
http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... 012&Part=1 Item [1]

2997v8 said:
Are MkVs "parts bin specials" just to use up remaining 750 stock or special?

The 750 (MkV) version continued in production until October 1973, so not exactly a parts bin special.
 
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